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Old 04-21-2008, 10:27 AM
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Note the cop's situation after being hit with a bat and dropped his ammo trying to chamber a round after being hit in the head with a bat.

Unloaded is unloaded.

I carry a S&W 40 cop special with a double safety and anti-shock protection in case it's dropped when I carry (certain situations). Turning the safety off is more protection than cocking a revolver...and it's a one-handed operation.

This thread had to do with a bad holster design...you don't fix that by keeping a gun unloaded.

In my opinion, of course.

If the holster required inserting a device that potentially activated the trigger, then not having a round in the chamber would eliminate that potential hazard.

The pilot sitting in the cockpit and the cop who was attacked from behind have entirely different duties, responsibilities and threats/dangers associated with their jobs. If a maniac with a baseball bat, could actually get a baseball bat on board a plane, he'd then have to blast by flight attendants, storm the cockpit and break down the door, to begin beating one of the pilots in the head (hopefully the one who wasn't carrying).

My point is that it's not a huge decrease in responsiveness for them to have the gun holstered without a round in the chamber. He's going to have to remove the gun from the holster anyway. In MOST scenarios, the pilot is going to have sufficient time to prepare for an attack on the cockpit.

A cop's job and situation is totally different I said that. I'm not a cop. I could go my whole life and not every have to draw or use my gun (hopefully). Cops are predisposed to certainly more threat/danger not only in terms of frequency, but also in terms of variety.

The likelihood of a terrorist trying to takeover an aircraft at this point is slim to none. Couple that with the increased security and the liklihood that he would even be marginally successful if he was dumb enough to try, makes it even less likely. Couple that with a cockpit door (that's supposed to be closed/locked during flight as I understand it) and the presence (or possible presence) of armed LE agents in the air....and it makes the need for having a gun that's ready to go....very small.

At the end of all things.....I don't care if someone carries loaded and ready to go....that's their choice. But if you're not familiar enough with your weapon OR the infamous holster that's required (or you're careless in how you handle the gun while in the holster) then you probably shouldn't be allowed to carry.

Just because someone passes a driver's license test doesn't make them a good driver. Just because a pilot passes a 2 week familiarization and safety course, doesn't make them an expert gun operator. I would HOPE that the pilot is an expert aviator....it's not unreasonable to demand he have the same level of competence handling a firearm before he endangers all his passengers by discharging the darned thing.
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