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Old 04-25-2008, 12:48 PM
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You may have seen this before. This is interesting reading. Something I think we all need to think about............


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Are we that stupid?


This email comes in three parts:

Part 1

In just one year. Remember the election in 2006?
Thought you might like to read the following:
A little over one year ago:


1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.


Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:


1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value
evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.


America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!


Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President. He has to
work with what's handed to him.



Quote of the Day........'My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to
change it.' -- Barack Obama




Part 2:

Taxes...Whether Democrat or a Republican you will find these statistics enlightening and amazing.
www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.html

Taxes under Clinton 1999..................Taxes under Bush 2008
Single making 30K - tax $8,400 ........Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $14,000.......Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $23,250.......Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K - tax $16,800.....Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $21,000.....Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $38,750....Married making 125K - tax $31,250

Both democratic candidates will return to the higher tax rates. It is amazing how many people that fall into the categories above think Bush is screwing them and Bill Clinton was the greatest President ever. If Obama or Hillary are elected, they both say they will repeal the Bush tax cuts and a good portion of the people that fall into the categories above can't wait for it to happen. This is like the movie "The Sting" with Paul Newman; you scam somebody out of some money and they don't even know what happened.



PART 3:

You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much? Read this:
Boy, am I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us. I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.
I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.


1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.
Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77


2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, [attached WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html


3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify at:
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
Verify at:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../01/ldt.0.html


5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
Verify at
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html


6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
Verify at:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html


7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
Verify at:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html


8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html


9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html


10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US
Verify at:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...12/ldt.01.html


11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.
Verify at: Homeland Security Report:
http://tinyurl.com/t9sht


12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be attached between $206 and $230 BILLION or an average cost of between $41 and $46 BILLION annually over a five year period.'
Verify at:
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.o...eportation.pdf


13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back
to their countries of origin.
Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm


14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States .'
Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml


The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.


Are we THAT stupid?
If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message. If, on the other hand, it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, I hope
you forward it to every legal resident in the country including every representative in Washington, D.C. - five times a week for as long as it takes to restore some semblance of intelligence in our policies and enforcement thereof.

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Good message, I'm really afraid of the tax situation once we get either Hitlery or O-boy I'll make you feel good-ama into office. Regardless of personal opinions, the majority of Americans can not afford much more coming out of their wallets, never mind the reasons why, and I bet it won't take long to start seeing the increases. Oh well, I guess we were due for "change".
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What's the national debt now ?
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Yes, it seems.
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So, Are the tax cuts mentioned under Part 2 from Bush or the Democratic Congress?

Just asking.
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there's no such thing as a GOOD politician, and they ALL look after their own interests. I am a card carrying Democrat but have voted Green party when no other choice looks good, looks like 2008 might be another green year.
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The implication being this happened over night??

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'QUOTE OF THE DAY',
best propaganda line ever spoke by a musslin"ALL INFIDELS MUST DIE,ALLAH"
and now we have one infiltrating the white house.
nostradamus is right again!!!!!!!!!!
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Actually Forrest Gump has the quote:

"Stupid is as stupid does."
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I am surprised to not see the link of the columnist how compared fatality rates in California alone to the war in Iraq.....

no, this isn't it...

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=53103

AAHHH! here it is.... you'd think I'd have found it quicker considering local ties...

http://www.columbustownhall.com/town...showtopic=3525
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Boy was that an eye opener comparing Calif to Iraq from a "news" standpoint (columbustownhall dot com link posted by Toad).
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To simply answer BG's original question it appears that the answer is unfortunately : yes

Now the hard question is: What do we do about it?
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The vast majority of politicians are crooks. It doesn't take a propaganda email going around to show you just how crooked they really are. There are more felons, drunks, extortionists, thieves, and convicted felons on Capital Hill than most small towns of the same population.

At least with the Republican crooks I have a fighting chance.

It's been a long time since most people absolutely supported a party. Instead, they simply pick the lesser of evils.

I don't like Republicans, and I really don't think George W. Bush is the best our country has to offer. I voted for him, twice. Unfortunately, I'd be forced to do it again (given who he was running against).

They just don't make Democrats like they used to. The Democratic party used to be the party for the working man. It used to be the party that stood up for the backbone of America....the middle to lower class working family. Unfortunately, they've evolved into a political whore who's willing to court any special victim group that can picket or protest.

Gays, minorities, illegals, welfare addicts, CRIMINALS, anti-religious groups...all of them would be better suited to vote Democrat than Republican. Again, to them, it's not necessarily that the Dem's are their first choice, it's just that they know the Republicans don't cater to their crap.

The stats in this thread are the same old flawed rhetoric you see (on both sides). The economy isn't a sports car. It doesn't move or turn on a dime. With some respects it can take decades for the economy to see the fruits of effort to change it.

It wasn't Bill Clinton that made the economy great. It was the policies of Reagan and Bush Sr. that paid off. Clinton took office very shortly AFTER the economy was in growth and left office shortly before the economy took a giant dump (which everyone blamed on W.).

Furthermore, the President has only a portion of the contribution to the overall economy. The FED, the Congress, etc....all have their part. Reagan was a tremendous leader, who was able to garner compromise and progress.

Alan Greenspan was and continues to be, quite possibly the most influential person in the world.

CAPITALISM is what makes our country great. The Capitalist spirit combined with the hard work of an American seeking to better themselves is what made us great. The Democrats seek to redistribute that hard work and effort to all the would-be victims out there. The only problem is....if there are more people riding than rowing, the boats gonna slow down (or even stop).

I don't like Republicans....I just hate them less than Spinlecrats.
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