McCain's VP Pick

[GlynMeek]

By the way, Mike...here's an excerpt from a political writeup today...

John McCain was aiming to make history with his pick of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, and historians say he succeeded.

Presidential scholars say she appears to be the least experienced, least credentialed person to join a major-party ticket in the modern era.

So unconventional was McCain’s choice that it left students of the presidency literally “stunned,” in the words of Joel Goldstein, a St. Louis University law professor and scholar of the vice presidency. “Being governor of a small state for less than two years is not consistent with the normal criteria for determining who’s of presidential caliber,” said Goldstein.

“I think she is the most inexperienced person on a major party ticket in modern history,” said presidential historian Matthew Dallek.

That includes Spiro T. Agnew, Richard Nixon’s first vice president, who was governor of a medium-sized state, Maryland, for two years, and before that, executive of suburban Baltimore County, the expansive jurisdiction that borders and exceeds in population the city of Baltimore.

It also includes George H.W. Bush’s vice president, Indiana Sen. Dan Quayle, who had served in the House and Senate for 12 years before taking office. And it also includes New York Rep. Geraldine Ferraro, who served three terms in the House before Walter Mondale chose her in 1984 as the first woman candidate on a major party ticket.

“It would be one thing if she had only been governor for a year and a half, but prior to that she had not had major experience in public life,” said Dallek of Palin. “The fact that he would have to go to somebody who is clearly unqualified to be president makes Obama look like an elder statesman.”

And Alaska is a much smaller state than Illinois, the political base of Barack Obama, whom Republicans have repeatedly criticized for being inexperienced, having served nearly four years in the U.S. Senate after eight in the Illinois state Senate.

“Not to belittle Alaska, but it’s different than the basket of issues you deal with in big, dynamic states.” Dallek said.

Palin has no experience in national office. Before becoming governor in December 2006, she served as a council member and mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, which had a population of slightly more than 5,000 during her time in office.

THIS was my point, but then I guess all these Presidential Scholars just don't like her because she is a woman!

Glyn

[Aspmann]

wtm442
If all the liberal maggots were to get off you would have no one to work on your car, deliver your SS check

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by Aspmann

wtm442
If all the liberal maggots were to get off you would have no one to work on your car, deliver your SS check

Nine posts in three years...two in this thread wondering alound about folk's political discussions and signatures which are certainly old hat around here...as if the current state of political discourse is bewildering.

Oh...you're from Florida.

[Ronbo]

Originally Posted by Jamo

Oh...you're from Florida.

Hey now, don't be messin with us swamp rats. We got bugs tougher than anyone from the left coast.

While the senator from Alaska is a good choice, I didn't care for the "here's your female politician ladies!" crap that was the first thing out of her mouth. Not to mention the "now I can do bla, bla especially for Alaskans. Wrong office honey, your supposed to focus on all Americans not just the 200 people in Alaska.

For some reason "send in the clowns" seems like great background music for this election.

[wtm442]

Originally Posted by Aspmann

wtm442
If all the liberal maggots were to get off you would have no one to work on your car, deliver your SS check

Jim
The quote below my name is from Jamo, and is there because I think it is funny.

I would not allow a liberal to work on my car because most of them think a screwdriver is a drink, not a tool. And all postal workers are conservatives. Liberals want everything given to them by the government, so work is a 4 letter word to liberals.

Oh, and I'm not old enough to collect Social Security.

OK? Let the flames begin. I've got a lot of popcorn to eat while watching this thread.

[Stentor]

Originally Posted by GlynMeek

THIS was my point, but then I guess all these Presidential Scholars just don't like her because she is a woman!

Glyn

No, they probably skewered her because they are liberals and they want Obama to get elected.

By the way, what qualifications does one have to have in order to be considered a "presidential scholar?"

[392cobra]

The way y'all are using the word "sexist",you'd think it was a bad thing.

[GlynMeek]

Originally Posted by 392cobra

The way y'all are using the word "sexist",you'd think it was a bad thing.

OK..so I overreacted a bit...just a TINY bit?...ROFL

Glyn

[imagine2frolic]

Originally Posted by 392cobra

The way y'all are using the word "sexist",you'd think it was a bad thing.

They said sexist....NOT SEXIEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[392cobra]

Jim,
I object to Jamo's quote as well as your's.

1. It gives maggots a bad name.
2. Why would you hold your mechanic or postman is such low esteem ?

[Jamo]

Ronbo...hehehehe...

That's they only think I am a bit concerned about too...a bit of a token.

I do, however, like the idea of a MILF in the White House though.

[bomelia]

Crap! Saw Jamo's sig on the thread and thought this was closed.

Glyn, seriously, get a LONG set of tongs and remove the wad. Your long rants mean little. I never accused you of being sexist. You just assumed that based on what I said.

Why in God's name are you so concerned about being called sexist? Go ahead.. call me a sexist or racist. See what happens.

Sarah Palin is a conservative's conservative. If you are a conservative, then you should be pleased. She chose life for her Down's baby when she knew this condition existed early on. She WANTS to drill. She fights corruption. She puts her "state" plane for sale on ebay. She killed Ted Steven's STUPID 250 M bridge to nowhere. Gutsy! She runs marathons (girl after me own heart). Sure, she is green behind the ears. But we all were/are at times. She will come up to speed. At least she has that option. Obama does not.

So, will you stay home on election day?

Mike

[bomelia]

Originally Posted by Jamo

Ronbo...hehehehe...

That's they only think I am a bit concerned about too...a bit of a token.

I do, however, like the idea of a MILF in the White House though.

Haven't heard MILF in a long while... you are a bad boy Jamo.

[Aspmann]

Warren,Jamo
I am on this site every day I think it is amusing some of the things I read.I won't use this site to air my polictial views and thoughts.I would rather read about your weekend at the races or shows.

If I was a PITA activist would you want me to have a signature or tag line that says


"All animal killers are maggots and should exit the earth at the next rotation."

I apologize if these are inside jokes that I am not aware of.

I won't even go into the Florida thing.

[bomelia]

[quote=Aspmann;875307]

If I was a PITA activist would you want me to have a signature or tag line that says

QUOTE]

No, you would be a lover of flat bread.

Glyn, if you do not vote, you are voting for Obama. Its that simple.

[bomelia]

I am posting a message I read elsewheres. I think this says a lot.

Sarah Palin is a mirror for each of us. Those who are haters are already spewing hate - "piece of ****" for a mother of five is a new low for this list.

Feel free to do a little research before posting. There are two rumors that are already gospel which just ain't so. With respect to the claim Gov. Palin shoots lions, tigers and bears (and wolves) from helicopters, there is no evidence she herself used or uses them for hunting. Rather, she signed a bill passed by the (democratically elected) legislature that provided 700 permits which permitted people to give it a try, necessary for hunters to even make the (very costly) attempt.

Given the size of Alaska, and that most people (OTHER THAN THOSE ON THIS
LIST) could not hike 100 miles (or risk it) going deep into wolf territory, I can't blame the people of Alaska for voting for representatives who responded to their constituents and passed this legislation.

My personal preference is to turn large areas of the US into wilderness, a la Bruce Sterling's short story "Our Neural Chernobyl" in which wild animals get smarter and can defend themselves. I am saddened by the killing of wild animals. That said, I'm more saddened by a poisoned political dialogue in which anyone running for office is subject to so much slander and libel that only the most callous or ambitious would participate.

I worked for Paul E. Tsongas in the US Senate (D-MA), whom Kerry succeeded. Tsongas had a great reputation as a good, ethical and honorable man, and I was proud to work for him. Then one day he told me the dark side of many of the Senators, the same people I would take bills to get their signature on. I asked him what his dark side was. Among other things, he said that, as an attorney, he never once defended an innocent person, but that he took the money and went for the win so that he could do greater good in political office.

I would think that, on this list of all places, that a person who places themselves in touch with the earth and trees, ice and snow, and can run a 4 hour marathon, haul fish, a la the Deadliest Catch, and is willing to face wolves and bears face to face, is someone who is less likely to fear political pressure to conform, and who is more likely to look out for nature and wilderness if and when she had the chance.

As for the polar bears, her objection was to them being placed on the endangered species list, which, like the Interstate Commerce Commission, is trick or technique used by the federal government to subvert what I (as an amateur Constitutional structuralist) would see as very clearly a STATE, not federal right. The Constitution gives the federal government the right to handle weights and measures, the coinage, defense, and interstate commerce, and explicitly leaves everything else to the states.

Say what you wish about Obama, virtually everything this purported Constitutional scholar promised to shower upon the miserable suffering masses in his speech was, in fact something that the Constitution clearly states is left to the states.

I don't care who you vote for, but I'm on this list for signs that a tribe that runs long distances is smarter (a la the book, SPARK), happier (a la the book THE ATHLETE'S Way), longer lived (a la LORE OF RUNNING), and more flexible and adaptable (my own theory). Sarah Palin is as close to the mean (and I mean that in multiple senses of the word) of this group in terms of being a distance runner and an outdoors person, so I hope that the conversation about her continues, and that at least some of you are capable of taking the dialogue to a level that would give a glimpse of a special, deeper understanding. Perhaps I'm asking too much, but occasional phrases, like Robert Self's transcendent, " The beauty of trail races and ultras (and practice for an ultra) is the unfolding panarama and the natural views
during the run. It would be a shame to run the same course again and
again, to the point where it held no more drama" makes it worth posting and finding the needles of brilliant insight that are on offer from this list.

Then again, if you are interested in spreading hate, then let fly the dogs of war, and go with the juicy rumor that her son screwed her daughter, and the Down's Syndrome baby is actually (a la Bree in Desperate Housewives) her daughter's baby that Palin is pretending is her own. The choice to see her as a kindred spirit runner and embracer of the wonderful world of nature, as most of us are, or as the new Wicked Witch of the North, and to tell the list, will say as much about us as it does about her.

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by Aspmann

Warren,Jamo
I am on this site every day I think it is amusing some of the things I read.I won't use this site to air my polictial views and thoughts.I would rather read about your weekend at the races or shows.

If I was a PITA activist would you want me to have a signature or tag line that says


"All animal killers are maggots and should exit the earth at the next rotation."

I apologize if these are inside jokes that I am not aware of.

I won't even go into the Florida thing.

Hmmm...you're on this site every day, but unaware of the long-running on-line personas and shower towel slaps that have continued unabated since the last election?

So why come on now and make annoying comments in the middle of a flowing give and take. Best you just walk on to some other part of the playground if you're not going to add to the discussion. I've had a thing lately about newbies and lurkers disturbing my slumber.

As to your threatened sig...looks fine to me. PITA means Pain In The Ass. Perhaps you meant PETA. Personally, I think of them as PITA-PETA.

Really...don't make this thread about you...or I WILL make it about you.

Thank you for your expected cooperation.*





*Since you have trouble with long-running commentary despite your ponounced presence around here, this phrase usually means your next stop might be the Twilight Zone.

[Scott S]

If you have any doubt how far the whacky left will go to win a election check this out...

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-69834

My God have they no shame?

Scott S

[427 S/O]

Scott, that's disgusting...It's very tempting to sink down to their level and fire back but, that's exactly what they want!. I've never been actively involved in a political race until now.

[cobra de capell]

Launching a political career as a small-town mayor creates one of the most interesting resume items a candidate for higher office can have. A small town mayor doesn’t just blabber in the legislature about theoretical soutions to vaguely defined problems but has to actually SOLVE REAL PROBLEMS.

And more than that, they operate in an environment of complete accountability and transparency. Their constitutents know where they live, where their children go to school, their home phone number, etc. It’s far easier for a legislator to hide himself away in a body of 100 other speechifiers than it is for a small-town mayor to duck the public.

In fact, I would argue that the reason you do NOT see many Sarah Palins rise to the top of the political heap from such environs is that most who reach the top would never take the risk of being a mayor, small-town or otherwise, or do so well at the job as to merit a step up to governor and beyond in the first place.

In FACT, I would argue that had Barack Obama taken his empty-rhetoric, barely-in-the-closet Marxist approach to governing a town of 9,000 his career in politics would have stopped dead right there.

Newly created, called "Clear Choices" ......