The American pastime of hunting...questions

[trularin]

Way to pick a topic Glyn.

I hunt often and for reason. The meat I take is what I live on for the year. We buy very little beef or other factory meat.

I shoot deer, elk, boar when I can and other animals that fit in to the idea of "I am going to eat that, should I shoot it?"

The hunt is exciting and requires skill to be successful. The "trophies" are for me and that is why I would mount what I do. I really do not care what other think about my hunting or my trophies. They are reminders of a great experience.

For anyone reading this, if you have been a vegetable eater all of your life, great! If you eat meat, I view you no different than the man that hunts to provide for his family.

There are no "added chemicals" in my meat. There are no dyes to make it look red. There is rarely over 15% fat in the burger we process.

We butcher over 50% of our meat ourselves and use outside butchers when we do not have the time.

I believe there are three reasons people hunt:

1. For the sport.
2. Because the person can kill something ( this is not sport ).
3. For the food.

Additionally, I do not care if the person to my right hunts or if the person to my left hunts. It is my hunt and if there are more people, it is our hunt.

Ask your questions, but try, before you decide to slam, to see my point of view.

[CobraEd]

There is no skill or challenge. Hunters in USA never hunt predators only defenseless herbivors. Hunting bear with a knife would be a challenge and require skill.

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[Ron61]

Glyn,

I grew up hunting but used a rifle mostly. We only shot what we could use for food and then used the hides to make things out of. I never hunted for trophies or sports, and never from a stand. Also they do have hunts that the states arrange when a herd needs thinning out, but I never have gone on one of those as the deer or whatever it is may be sick. That is why they have those hunts is to get the overpopulation of that species down. I believe they either had one or are talking about having to have one soon on the Catalina Island as the deer population there has become so big there isn't enough food for them. I think I just enjoyed the hiking through the canyons and seeing places that few people will ever see as much as actually getting anything. And believe me, I have helped some people get a big Elk they have killed about 10 miles from any road to where they can get to it with a 4 wheeler and that is not fun.

Ron

[turnpike boy]

Originally Posted by CobraEd

There is no skill or challenge. Hunters in USA never hunt predators only defenseless herbivors. Hunting bear with a knife would be a challenge and require skill.

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Yes, it would. With a predictable outcome, too. And since you're devoid of the understanding that man is at the top of the food chain, you clearly will never come to understand how he got there.

(By the way - your bear is a game species, hunted in most states. So much for "only defenseless herbivors.")


-Roger

[CobraEd]

(By the way - your bear is a game species, hunted in most states. So much for "only defenseless herbivors.")


-Roger[/quote]



With a knife ???



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[turnpike boy]

Originally Posted by CobraEd

With a knife ???

Sadly, the wildlife agencies I'm familiar with seek to have the hunter successful in their (the agencies) program of wildlife management. To that end, none that I'm aware of set aside a knife season. Firearm, muzzleloader, bow, some crossbow seasons -yes, but no knife season. Not even in Virginia.

As ethical, law-abiding hunters we seek to comply with the rules and regulations each wildlife agency promulgates, and as such this means hunting with a knife would be a statutory violation of the law.

That means we'd be in trouble. With the law. Not prudent.

Surely you don't recommend we violate the law. Since this is your ideal of hunting, I recommend you petition the Virginia Game and Inland Fisheries Dept. for just such a license. Please let us know when you're successful and when you're available to show us how to successfully hunt in your preferred manner.

-Roger

[CobraEd]

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[turnpike boy]

Rather than taking on a bear first, maybe you might want to go after a defenseless herbivor - like, maybe, a buck whitetail during the rut? They do only eat forage, and they're only a deer (albeit with antlers - their adaptation of a knife), and they might give you a challenge without worrying whether or not they outweigh you.

Whattya think?

[GlynMeek]

Originally Posted by trularin

I hunt often and for reason. The meat I take is what I live on for the year. We buy very little beef or other factory meat.

I shoot deer, elk, boar when I can and other animals that fit in to the idea of "I am going to eat that, should I shoot it?"

The hunt is exciting and requires skill to be successful.

THIS makes sense to me...everyone, thanks for taking the time to 'educate' me on this. It would seem that most folks also question the mindless 'hide killing' that I questioned. We ARE top of the food chain, that's just the way it is, it's ther other stuff that concerns me!

Glyn