Do Facts Matter? Recriminations

[Cobrabill]

Originally Posted by cobra bill

You are absolutely correct, there were none! he was putting up a front to keep his mortal enemy Iran at bay, yes at one time he had WMD's hell we sold them to him, what do you think that photo of him and Rumsfeld was all about?

That makes no sense as Iran knew well that Hussein gassed his own people.There would be no need to"put up a front" as the front was already there in the form of dead,gassed Kurds.

Hussien & Rumsfeld take a picture because Rumsfeld just sold him a WMD?Huh?

[cobra bill]

Originally Posted by Cobrabill

That makes no sense as Iran knew well that Hussein gassed his own people.There would be no need to"put up a front" as the front was already there in the form of dead,gassed Kurds.

Hussien & Rumsfeld take a picture because Rumsfeld just sold him a WMD?Huh?

Iran had no idea how badly we had destroyed his ability to wage war against anyone, its well documented, as is Don Rumsfeld when he worked for Gilead Sciences, sold the chemicals to make WMD to him, keep in mind how our government thinks, the enemy of our enemy is our friend, we armed the crap out of him when he was engaging Iran.

Gilead Sciences: joined Gilead as a director in 1988 Chairman (1997–2001)

[wtm442]

Please do not let the facts get in the way of a good liberal attack.

All of the intel from other countries said that they had WMD. John Kerry and Hillary said that they had WMD. The UN agreed. It was one of the reasons that the forces from many countries invaded Iraq.

Of course, in all of the liberal minds its now ....
"Bush lied and people died."

Typical class warfare from the far left. Do not propose a solution ... just see if you can get the opponents to hate each other. Oh, and BTW, if you want someone to fix this problem, vote Democratic.

Definition of Democratic "Opponents" - ie - Repub vs Dems, rich vs poor, black vs white, Christianity vs all other religions, etc

So, if the facts are not reported by the liberal main media, the facts are not facts ... they are just racist statements by hateful Republicans. Just ask Barney Frank.

Not only does Barney Frank make me embarrassed that I am from Massachusetts, he almost makes me mad that I am a part of the same race as that blowhard .. the human race. He is a total waste of flesh.

OK, my rant is over ... for now.

[aharris]

Hope you feel better after that.

Andrew

[cobra bill]

No doubt, I hope you feel better too!
Listen I have no doubt he had WMD's we sold most of them to him, the key word there ( had ) and so now how are you going to explain why the Bushista's kept changing the reason for going to war? let me see first there was WMD's, nope none there, he had been involved with Al-Qaida, NOPE NOT TRUE Saddam was a Sunni and the Al-Qaida are Shi'a and by the way so is Iran. then I think we were building a democracy, Yeah that's not going to happen, someone should really read about their history! and last but not least we are nation building, OK there's a good one, you know if we really wanted to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi's we would have hired every swinging dick in the country to rebuild it themselves, they built it to begin with who knew better how to re-build it. instead we had no bid contracts bringing in foreign workers, you know the highest wage for an college educated Iraqi would have been $9 an hour, they would have been fat and happy and to busy buying things to bother with trying to kill us.

OK Now I feel better Ha!

[Cobrabill]

[quote=cobra bill;886997]Iran had no idea how badly we had destroyed his ability to wage war against anyoneQUOTE]

We destroyed his ability to wage war during &AFTER the invasion.Your reference to "putting up a front" would HAVE TO be(using logic) prior to the invasion.Your point is there-fore invalid.

[Cobrabill]

[quote=cobra bill;Listen I have no doubt he had WMD's we sold most of them to him, the key word there ( had ) [/QUOTE]

Bill-thanks for making this easy.If he HAD them,then he still could have HAD them.As Warren stated,EVERYONE thought he did.

Here's a poser for you-Which would be harder to hide:WMD or an F-16?

[FWB]

Originally Posted by wtm442

Please do not let the facts get in the way of a good liberal attack.

All of the intel from other countries said that they had WMD. John Kerry and Hillary said that they had WMD. The UN agreed. It was one of the reasons that the forces from many countries invaded Iraq.

Of course, in all of the liberal minds its now ....
"Bush lied and people died."

Typical class warfare from the far left. Do not propose a solution ... just see if you can get the opponents to hate each other. Oh, and BTW, if you want someone to fix this problem, vote Democratic.

Definition of Democratic "Opponents" - ie - Repub vs Dems, rich vs poor, black vs white, Christianity vs all other religions, etc

So, if the facts are not reported by the liberal main media, the facts are not facts ... they are just racist statements by hateful Republicans. Just ask Barney Frank.

Not only does Barney Frank make me embarrassed that I am from Massachusetts, he almost makes me mad that I am a part of the same race as that blowhard .. the human race. He is a total waste of flesh.

OK, my rant is over ... for now.

excellent rant warren, i approve , i do wonder how far one must stand away
from barney as to not be spit on when he speaks. if the futher mucker has hiv it could be by mere speaking he is committing reckless endangerment.

[Cobrabill]

In an interview Ol' Barney actually had the balls to say the current financial mess was caused by the private sector.

[VRM]

Originally Posted by Cobrabill

Bill-thanks for making this easy.If he HAD them,then he still could have HAD them.As Warren stated,EVERYONE thought he did.

Thanks for making this even easier.

Sure he had them, we sold them to him to fight Iran.

What you obviously don't know is that those types of weapons have a shelf life of only 4-5 years. Any WMD he had after 911 would have been about as dangerous as strawberry jello.

Steve

[Cobrabill]

Originally Posted by VRM

Thanks for making this even easier.

Sure he had them, we sold them to him to fight Iran.

What you obviously don't know is that those types of weapons have a shelf life of only 4-5 years. Any WMD he had after 911 would have been about as dangerous as strawberry jello.

Steve

Nice try Steve Libby,but logic(something liberals aren't familiar with)dictates if he had/has some("shelf life is irrelevant") then the chances are he has more.And tell me exactly why you are ignoring the fact that the WHOLE PHUCKING world thought he had them?

Now you can answer the poser:what's easier to hide,WMD or a F-16?

[aharris]

Depends where you are hiding it. With a lot of grunting and plenty of vaseline you could "hide" a WMD. An F-16, well thats a different matter!

Andrew

[Cobrabill]

Originally Posted by aharris

Depends where you are hiding it. With a lot of grunting and plenty of vaseline you could "hide" a WMD. An F-16, well thats a different matter!

Andrew

Iraq hid fighter planes by burying them in the sand.So using your logic(and VRMs)You can hide a 15 ton fighter but not WMDs.

[aharris]

But they found the buried planes.......

Andrew

[Cobrabill]

Originally Posted by aharris

But they found the buried planes.......

Andrew

God Damn! You liberals are as thick as Rosie O'Donnell's head.

[wtm442]

Originally Posted by Cobrabill

God Damn! You liberals are as thick as Rosie O'Donnell's head.

No way. That is the ultimate insult. Most liberals are very nice people. On the other hand, Rosie O'D should be locked away in a mental institute.

[Jamo]

CBill...take it down a notch.

Liberals (closet and otherwise), please be respectful of folks who are correct.

[Cobrabill]

Warren-just a reference to the size of that Pumkin head of hers.Like referencing something of "Titanic proportions".I do realize that comparing Rosie to the Titanic would be a dastardly insult to the White Star Line.

Jamo-No problem.But they aren't correct.

[VRM]

Originally Posted by Cobrabill

Nice try Steve Libby,but logic(something liberals aren't familiar with)dictates if he had/has some("shelf life is irrelevant") then the chances are he has more.And tell me exactly why you are ignoring the fact that the WHOLE PHUCKING world thought he had them?

Now you can answer the poser:what's easier to hide,WMD or a F-16?

Actually, a shelf life is VERY important. They were nearing their expiration date back around the first Gulf war (almost 2 decades ago in case you forgot). Saying it is irrelevant does not make it so.
And just because a bunch of lemmings think he had WMD because Bush was saying so does not invalidate the evidence to the contrary.

I would think it would be easier to hide an F16. No worries about radiation or chemical leaks and you can't use Geiger counters or chemical detection equipment to follow the movement trail of an F16.

Steve

[Jamo]

CBill...read it again. I was asking the liberals amongst us to be respectful of the folks who are correct, ie., conservatives.

Obviously, my liberal friends, it is a joke...please don't send Pelosi/Reid after me.