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10-13-2008, 09:07 AM
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This from memory and I am old and don't remember well so don't anyone get to excited about it. But I remember reading about that and I later saw a very small article in some newspaper that since he hadn't actually used an atomic bomb, therefore they could not consider the stuff he had to make them as WOMD material. Since we, Russia,China, and I don't know how many have nuclear weapons assembled but aren't using them, I guess by that definition we don't have any either. And the fact he tried to buy more and never got it in no way takes away the fact that he did have some to start with. Using that to cover the rest is just pure B.S.
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10-13-2008, 11:39 AM
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There is a little more to the story than the spin version presented.
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...at_the_us.html
Note that this stuff was under guard from 1991 until 2003 when the US invaded.
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10-13-2008, 11:44 AM
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Ok, Steve, now just which of these versions is absolutely correct and how do you know?
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10-13-2008, 11:50 AM
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factcheck.org... a truly unbiased perfect institution of truth.
(insert another coughing up a liver vomit smilie here)
kind of convenient that factcheck didn't catch (or post) these hmmmmm?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,433314,00.html
I expect better from you Steve. 
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10-13-2008, 12:15 PM
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Just so you know factcheck.org is not an unbiased and reliable source to check your facts. They are very much supported by the left-wing liberals.
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10-13-2008, 12:29 PM
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Well JT,
Dick Cheney quoted Factcheck during one of his debates. If it is good enough for him it should be good enough for you... 
Ron,
There is other evidence as well, but very few people on this forum seem interested in reading it - I have posted it before. Some comes from the UN team sent in before the war, some comes from our own government reports.
There is plenty from the ISG that cites some of these reports, and if somebody wants to slog through it it can be very educational.
However, despite the majority of evidence indicating that Hussein had nothing that would constitute WMD, there is still no way to prove that he did not as you cannot prove a negative.
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10-13-2008, 12:33 PM
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Great - info from a website linked to the Annenburg Project. Another ultra-liberal site linked to the radical Ayers that bombed the Pentagon, and Osama Obama worked on that project for a while. Oh, and also connected to that wonderful group called ACORN that is currently under investigation for voter fraud in a dozen states.
And I really like that hard hitting factual claims they produce like the last statement on the first Q&A .... and I quote ...
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There is more to the article, but I wonder if the claim "the U.S. found massive amounts of yellowcake" can be substantiated and, maybe as a followup, if true, I wonder why the major media seems to have ignored this.
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Hard hitting facts ... using the term "I wonder" twice and "if" twice. WOW.
What concrete evidence! I'm amazed the writer did not say ... na, na ... my father can beat up your father.
Anyone who thinks the info on that web page is factual has definitely gone into the Kool-Aid jug a few too many times.
And I almost forgot ... since I wrote something critical of the Messiah Obama, I must be a racist.
God help us if that smooth talking socialist gets elected.
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10-13-2008, 01:02 PM
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Warren,
It's a Q and A. The Q was either sent in by somebody, or they phrased it in the form if an informal question themselves - probably paraphrasing from a bunch of similar questions. Go back and re-read - pay a little closer attention to the format when you do.
If you have evidence linking them to Ayers or some other group please feel free to post it rather than just making accusations.
And then feel free to read the ISG report.
Steve
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10-13-2008, 01:36 PM
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Ayers?
You mean this guy?
What's that he's standing on so proudly?
Yeah, Obama kicked off his political career in 1995 in this guy's living room.
Maybe that's why Obama refused show any reverence or salute the flag - or wear a lapel pin.
Ayers has accomplished alot over the years, a dozen bombs including the Pentagon.
Seven people dead - I thought Liberals didn't like it when people died...
On September 11th, 2001, Ayers says in the New York Times (where the bombs should have been) he had no regrets about it and should have done more.
After all, he beat the charges and escaped conviction thru the very same subterfuge Obama relishes and the Clintons conquered the world on.
Okay, I'll stop.
This is so effortless, so obvious, yet millions of Americans can't seem to grasp it.
This country deserves Obama if he's voted in as President.
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10-13-2008, 01:46 PM
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The topic was about WMD...it was not about Ayers or Liberals.
Lounge or no Lounge, stay on topic or move on.
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10-13-2008, 02:08 PM
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Ayers was referenced in the VRM post above.
I was following along.
Left-Wing and anti-war are terms used in the intial post setting the tone for this thread.
Okay, disagreeing with the Mod Squad is never a good thing to do....
Sorry Ron, scolding heeded.

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