Redistribution of Wealth

[cobra de capell]

Originally Posted by cobra bill

Oh there you go again, you forgot the space between Cobra and Bill the real cobrabill is going to get his feathers ruffled again!

What make you think I forgot?

[stengun]

Howdy,

I am a life long Democrat (44yo) and a blue collar worker. A member of the United Steelworkers of America Local #7366. A Disabled American Veteran. A proud gun owner. A believer in the Bill of Rights and the Holy Bible.


I do not trust Obama. Any politician will lie to get elected and I feel this is 1,000X's true for Obama. He has put out the message that he will spread the wealth. Obama has intentitional misled the "Welfare Class" to believe that he will take money from the rich and give it to the poor. This is just a lie to get the "Welfare Class", whom in general, do not vote, to get up off their welfare butts and vote for him. There is roughly the same number of voting Repubs and Dems. The Swing voters decide the election. Even if the swing voters split 50/50 for McCain and Obama, if Obama can get 1% of the "Welfare Class" that can vote, to vote, he will win the election. So, I feel that Obama has lied to get the "Welfare Class" to vote for him.

Plus, all the things that Obama says that he will do for the poor and lower middle-class is going to be very expensive. Who is going to pay for this? Not the ultra-rich, the MegaCorp, Big Oil or the Big Box Store. They own too many politicans to vote to tax them or take their money away.

Obama has lied to America.

John McCain......... I can think of a million people that I would vote for as President before McCain. But I can think of a million and one that I would vote for as President before I would vote for Obama.

Gee, out of over 300 million in the USA, I want another candidate!

Paul

P.S. I sure am disappointed with the Republican Party and especially the NRA and other gun rights groups. The NRA beat Al Gore in 2000 and the Swift Boat groups beat Kerry in 2004. I guess the Republican Party, the NRA and the Swift boaters must really want Obama to win.

[cobra bill]

How could anyone vote for McCain that cares about America's future!

Even in current era of the blogosphere, punditry that’s actually useful – as opposed to simple ranting – is nuanced. It at least acknowledges that reality is rarely black and white. It admits that there are usually two sides to every story. It recognizes that policymaking often requires balancing competing legitimate goals. (That’s why it’s hard.)

Unfortunately, nuance simply isn’t part of the record of Republican presidential nominee John McCain on economic globalization. Throughout his Congressional career and his presidential candidacy, his words and deeds on trade, manufacturing, investment, and related issues have been so unrelievedly dreadful across the board that they could easily be mistaken for propaganda by his opponents.

Worse, these problems go way beyond McCain’s proud support for every single outsourcing-focused trade deal served up since the North American Free Trade Agreement. They also go way beyond his habit of mistaking free-market platitudes for sensible approaches to (a) overcoming specific, concrete challenges faced by American producers in often hostile global marketplaces, and (b) fixing the dangerous weaknesses pervading the world economy – thanks largely to the toxic mix of U.S. trade policy negligence and foreign mercantilism.

When the picture of McCain’s globalization policies is rounded out by his enthusiasm for globalizing (read “outsourcing”) American defense procurement and undermining domestic defense producers, a genuinely appalling conclusion emerges: McCain’s dominant impulses in this sphere add up to nothing less than blanket opposition to realistic strategies for promoting the U.S. economy’s productive sectors – along with an equally powerful determination to ignore or actually coddle foreign predation.

the rest of the article http://www.americaneconomicalert.org...p?Prod_ID=3053

[wtm442]

Originally Posted by cobra bill

How could anyone vote for McCain that cares about America's future!

the rest of the article http://www.americaneconomicalert.org...p?Prod_ID=3053

Simple answer. Because the alternative to McCain is pure suicide.

[cobra de capell]

Originally Posted by wtm442

Simple answer. Because the alternative to McCain is pure suicide.

BINGO - Now, that should be the quote of the entire process1

[cobra bill]

That's just fear mongering and has no basis in fact, you have little faith in our democracy, no one man can change our democracy, our for-fathers were very careful about that, not even W was able to, and he really tried to tear up the constitution.

[wtm442]

Originally Posted by cobra bill

That's just fear mongering and has no basis in fact, you have little faith in our democracy, no one man can change our democracy, our for-fathers were very careful about that, not even W was able to, and he really tried to tear up the constitution.

You are absolutely correct. But Obama can surely open the door to destruction if the Senate goes heavily Democratic.

[Ron61]

Isn't the Senate already just about Democratic controlled? I just fear that all of Congress is going to go heavy Democratic and with what we are going to have for a President, I really wonder about the future of the country. Oh well, I voted and that is about all that I can do.

Ron

[Dan40]

Originally Posted by Ron61

Isn't the Senate already just about Democratic controlled? I just fear that all of Congress is going to go heavy Democratic and with what we are going to have for a President, I really wonder about the future of the country. Oh well, I voted and that is about all that I can do.

Ron

In the semi-brilliant words of Nancy Pelosi, "With a Democratic President, a Democratic House and a Democratic Senate, our government will be much more BI-PARTISAN!"

Wha???

The Liberal Loony Left, dangerous but entertaining.

Dan

[wtm442]

Originally Posted by Ron61

Isn't the Senate already just about Democratic controlled? I just fear that all of Congress is going to go heavy Democratic and with what we are going to have for a President, I really wonder about the future of the country. Oh well, I voted and that is about all that I can do.

Ron

What I should have said was a "filibuster proof Senate". Controlling 60 seats is the holy grail and would allows the Dumbocrates to block filibusters from the Republicans and truly run the chamber with an iron fist.

If we end up with a Democratic run Senate (especially if its 60 or more seats), House of Reps and President -- watch out. We will be in serious deep doo doo. To quote Mark Twain .... "To lodge all power in one party and keep it there is to insure bad government."

[cobra bill]

Originally Posted by wtm442

What I should have said was a "filibuster proof Senate". Controlling 60 seats is the holy grail and would allows the Dumbocrates to block filibusters from the Republicans and truly run the chamber with an iron fist.

If we end up with a Democratic run Senate (especially if its 60 or more seats), House of Reps and President -- watch out. We will be in serious deep doo doo. To quote Mark Twain .... "To lodge all power in one party and keep it there is to insure bad government."

You know it's not too often I can say this, but I agree with you, though the end of the world never happened when the republicans had full power of all three branches of government, we still survived, and we will again! It's always best to have checks and balances, the only ones it will harm is the party in power, it's what happened to the republicans, when they had all the power, they abused it and now the voters will extract there revenge, if they do what they are supposed to do they will be rewarded, I have my doubts though that any party will do the right thing if the voters don't hold their feet to the fire! So all is not lost if the democrats take power, a lot of dems are from conservative districts, all we need to do is hold their feet to the fire!

[jhv48]

Originally Posted by cobra bill

That's just fear mongering and has no basis in fact, you have little faith in our democracy, no one man can change our democracy, our for-fathers were very careful about that, not even W was able to, and he really tried to tear up the constitution.

That's what they thought about Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Ghengis Khan, Caesar, etc.

[cobra bill]

Originally Posted by jhv48

That's what they thought about Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Ghengis Khan, Caesar, etc.

Well I have to tell you Bush and Cheney come closer to that description then Obama, There grab for power was unprecedented in our nation's history, they tortured prisoners, ran gulags spied on Americans removes habitués corpus as well as Posse commutates, and let's not forget the Bush doctoran! this was the biggest assault on the constitution that was ever done in all our history! Not even any of the world wars, or the cold war, was there ever such an assault on the constitution and your boy McCain bought into it all, I think what you all might be afraid of is a democrat asserting those same powers, That's why I feel comfortable voting for Obama, he is a constitutional scholar and will know and respect what it stands for.

[Dan40]

Originally Posted by cobra bill

Well I have to tell you Bush and Cheney come closer to that description then Obama, There grab for power was unprecedented in our nation's history, they tortured prisoners, ran gulags spied on Americans removes habitués corpus as well as Posse commutates, and let's not forget the Bush doctoran! this was the biggest assault on the constitution that was ever done in all our history! Not even any of the world wars, or the cold war, was there ever such an assault on the constitution and your boy McCain bought into it all, I think what you all might be afraid of is a democrat asserting those same powers, That's why I feel comfortable voting for Obama, he is a constitutional scholar and will know and respect what it stands for.

"There [their] grab for power was unprecedented in our nation's history, they tortured prisoners, ran gulags spied on Americans, etc., etc."

Sorry but that statement is completely incorrect. During WWII, much more liberties and freedoms were put 'on hold' than anything Bush did. [check with the Japanese Americans that had their land and businesses and FREEDOM taken away] Then we were fighting an enemy that wanted to conquer and control us and exploit our territory and resources. The typical historic reason for war. Now we are at war with an enemy that only wants us all DEAD. They don't want our money, they don't want our land, they don't want our people. They want our lives to END.
Yet when the enemy says, "We will kill you all!" The liberals say, "Well let us discuss this." Evidently there is enough insanity to go around.

Dan

[cobra bill]

Originally Posted by Dan40

"There [their] grab for power was unprecedented in our nation's history, they tortured prisoners, ran gulags spied on Americans, etc., etc."

Sorry but that statement is completely incorrect. During WWII, much more liberties and freedoms were put 'on hold' than anything Bush did. [check with the Japanese Americans that had their land and businesses and FREEDOM taken away] Then we were fighting an enemy that wanted to conquer and control us and exploit our territory and resources. The typical historic reason for war. Now we are at war with an enemy that only wants us all DEAD. They don't want our money, they don't want our land, they don't want our people. They want our lives to END.
Yet when the enemy says, "We will kill you all!" The liberals say, "Well let us discuss this." Evidently there is enough insanity to go around.

Dan

Point taken in the case of the Japanese, however we would not have an enemy in the Muslim world had we not meddled in the lives, the treaty of Tripoli held for years with the Muslims, when we tried to bring in western culture and Christianity is where they got pissed off. They want us out, that's all.

[MChat]

Originally Posted by cobra bill

That's why I feel comfortable voting for Obama, he is a constitutional scholar and will know and respect what it stands for.

Might want to rethink that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

(In his own words)


And if he's such a "constitutional scholar" then why is he so for preventing the people from their right to bear arms?

[cobra bill]

Originally Posted by MChat

Might want to rethink that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

(In his own words)


And if he's such a "constitutional scholar" then why is he so for preventing the people from their right to bear arms?

That video had nothing to do with fire arms

[NeoConMan]

Originally Posted by cobra bill

I feel comfortable voting for Obama, he is a constitutional scholar and will know and respect what it stands for.

The pointy-headed pseudo-intellectuals have applied their scholarly talents and deduced their candidate must be Obama.

No reality involved whatsoever.

Oh, but they are so much more intelligent than us knuckle-dragging Conservatives....

[cobra bill]

Originally Posted by NeoConMan

The pointy-headed pseudo-intellectuals have applied their scholarly talents and deduced their candidate must be Obama.

No reality involved whatsoever.

Oh, but they are so much more intelligent than us knuckle-dragging Conservatives....

Well we already tried stupid for the last 8 years that has not worked out so well has it!

[427 S/O]

So, cobra bill is comfortable with this!!!.........

Repost on ''O'NO!

He knows nothing about the military

He knows nothing about economics

He knows nothing about health care

He knows nothing about taxes

He knows nothing about business

He never held a job where he was required to produce, and be accountable.He knows nothing about the current financial mess

I doubt he knows much about being a 'community organizer'

And, he has a long history of taking advice from radicals.....