Point of No Return (Mark Steyn)

[cobra de capell]

Beyond the elites and the media, my greatest concern is whether this election will show a majority of the voters susceptible to the appeal of a charismatic demagogue.

This, I believe, is what everyone is wondering about. Most of us don’t believe the polls—not for a minute. Yet we see the crowds at 0bama’s rallys and we wonder, “What on earth? Are these people living in the same country as I am?” And then it strikes us...Maybe...just maybe...we are witnessing the wresting away of a nation by a great swell of socialistic rhetoric, all given the power of a steamroller by a complicit media. And we wonder if, when we all wake up on November 5th, will we still be living in our country—or some other?

[VRM]

Well, the GOP crammed things like torture, pre-emptive wars, doubling the debt, and cash giveaways to large companies down our throats for the last 8 years.

What did you expect was going to happen?

And BTW, we were not founded on Judeo-Christian principles - a large number of the FF were not Christians, and did not want this to be a Christian nation. They took what they considered to be the best from a variety of religions and forms of government and made it ours.


So you pick the chicken while the majority of the plane eats the glass and poo. You discover that the chicken is not cooked, but you eat it anyway because you don't know to do anything different. I (and maybe one or two others) will skip the meal because we know that waiting 10 hours until we can get to the airport lounge will be uncomfortable, but is clearly the best option given the alternatives.
When the aircraft resumes the flight and I get back on, it will have been emptied of most of the fools who ate the crappy meal. I will be able to stretch out end enjoy the flight.

So do everybody a favour - take four years off and get your collective GOP heads on straight. Come back with candidates who will not cram their religion down anybodies throat, who will not give out tax dollars to companies, who will teach people to fish rather than giving them fish, and encourage people to ask questions even if it makes the party uncomfortable.

Try to win the vote of a gay black Muslim with a great work ethic who lost a leg serving in the US Army. I bet you can't do it. I bet you don't even want his vote.

[cobra de capell]

Originally Posted by VRM

Well, the GOP crammed things like torture, pre-emptive wars, doubling the debt, and cash giveaways to large companies down our throats for the last 8 years.

What did you expect was going to happen?

And BTW, we were not founded on Judeo-Christian principles - a large number of the FF were not Christians, and did not want this to be a Christian nation. They took what they considered to be the best from a variety of religions and forms of government and made it ours.


So you pick the chicken while the majority of the plane eats the glass and poo. You discover that the chicken is not cooked, but you eat it anyway because you don't know to do anything different. I (and maybe one or two others) will skip the meal because we know that waiting 10 hours until we can get to the airport lounge will be uncomfortable, but is clearly the best option given the alternatives.
When the aircraft resumes the flight and I get back on, it will have been emptied of most of the fools who ate the crappy meal. I will be able to stretch out end enjoy the flight.

So do everybody a favour - take four years off and get your collective GOP heads on straight. Come back with candidates who will not cram their religion down anybodies throat, who will not give out tax dollars to companies, who will teach people to fish rather than giving them fish, and encourage people to ask questions even if it makes the party uncomfortable.

Try to win the vote of a gay black Muslim with a great work ethic who lost a leg serving in the US Army. I bet you can't do it. I bet you don't even want his vote.

You know, VRM you really are in a more than passingly strange way an arugula-chomping European elitist. No candidate is good enough for you, America isn’t good enough for you and I’ll bet even your bowl movements come up short. On one hand, you continually defend Obama, but he’s not good enough for you – he doesn’t get your vote. On the other hand, Ron Paul is your hero with most people thinking he’s nuts. I wonder where one would find your peer group – it for sure isn't here. I’m thinking that you belong to the snollygoster crowd. You have what it takes to lead that group.

With that said, perhaps you are not an elitist – you’re just an uppity buggerin’ wanker in perpetual full weasel mode.

[Cobrabill]

Originally Posted by VRM

Well, the GOP crammed things like torture, pre-emptive wars.

These are good things.

[VRM]

Originally Posted by Cobrabill

These are good things.

Only for those who hate this country.

[Cobrabill]

Wrong again o sack-less wonder.

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by Cobrabill

Wrong again o sack-less wonder.

Comment like that after both Mods weigh in?

One day off...anyone else?

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by VRM

Only for those who hate this country.

Day off for agitation...

Next?

[MChat]

Originally Posted by VRM

And BTW, we were not founded on Judeo-Christian principles - a large number of the FF were not Christians, and did not want this to be a Christian nation. They took what they considered to be the best from a variety of religions and forms of government and made it ours.

I'm sorry but this is a blatant lie.

The 1st Amendment protection of the Freedom of Religion was intended to keep the Gov't out of the Churches' business; it was not intended to eradicate all forms of Christianity from public places as it is being used now. The worry was about the Gov't creating a "state Church" rather than allowing the various denominations of Christianity to be free to worship as they choose.

Many of the early documents (including the Declaration of Independence) made frequent references to the Christian/Jewish God.