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11-01-2008, 10:19 AM
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Somebody, anybody, PLEASE define the term "assault weapon" for me once and for all.
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Now let me get this straight...
Someone actually asks for a definition of 'assault weapon' as it regards an Uzi Submachine gun?
Seriously, if such a person can't understand why this weapon would not fit that description they shouldn't be allowed to own a gun of any kind! 
Last edited by Excaliber; 11-01-2008 at 11:56 AM..
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11-01-2008, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Excaliber
Now let me get this straight...
Someone actually asks for a definition of 'assault weapon' as it regards an Uzi Submachine gun?
Seriously, if such a person can't understand why this weapon would not fit that description they shouldn't be allowed to own a gun of any kind! 
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Which end of that thing does the bullet come out of?   
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11-03-2008, 04:21 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF1715, Roush Built 434 ci Stroker, Dart Block, Ported AFR 205 Heads... 561 hp / 547 tq, Former Roush Show Car, Completed and Prepped By Olthoff Racing.
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Originally Posted by Excaliber
Now let me get this straight...
Someone actually asks for a definition of 'assault weapon' as it regards an Uzi Submachine gun?
Seriously, if such a person can't understand why this weapon would not fit that description they shouldn't be allowed to own a gun of any kind! 
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Actually if the Uzi in question is a semi auto it would not be considered an assault weapon. An assault weapon defined by the military is capable of both semi and full auto fire (or burst). The idiots in the media often define weapons as assault weapons that are not.
It's kind of like a Cobra relplica. It may look like the military version (full auto capable) but it is just a look a like. 
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11-03-2008, 04:24 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 427SO with big twin autolite inlines on custom intake, jag rear, top loader, wembeldon white, guardsmen blue stripes
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Might wanna tell 'real1' about that............
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11-03-2008, 05:45 PM
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I assume that the weapon 'walked up' due to recoil from full auto and that is what resulted in the kid's death. I'm not sure how one could be careless enough to achieve the same results (death) in a semi or even burst mode?
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11-04-2008, 04:52 PM
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Actually if the Uzi in question is a semi auto it would not be considered an assault weapon. An assault weapon defined by the military is capable of both semi and full auto fire (or burst). The idiots in the media often define weapons as assault weapons that are not.
It's kind of like a Cobra relplica. It may look like the military version (full auto capable) but it is just a look a like. 
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It's kind of like a cobra replica. It may have 427 badges on the side, but it may only have a small block.
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Originally Posted by Excaliber
I assume that the weapon 'walked up' due to recoil from full auto and that is what resulted in the kid's death. I'm not sure how one could be careless enough to achieve the same results (death) in a semi or even burst mode?
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Whether it's full auto or not, any semi is a dangerous weapon for an inexperienced shooter, as it reloads sometimes without the shooter realizing it, and can discharge easily again at an unintended target.
single shot, bolt action, revolver are safer firearms.
Winchester model 94 is often chosen as an entry level gun, as it's relatively cheap. Unfortunaltely, it has no safety, and to unload, you have to work the rounds through the chamber, and sometimes the gun can discharge while unloading, shooting an unintended target. Also, not a good gun for beginners, children.
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11-05-2008, 04:23 AM
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A few years ago they had a person killed at a combined air gun, rifle range. They had the ranges designed with both shooting toward each other and a big concrete wall with berms of sand on each side. Now this was an indoor range and for some unknown reason they left a 1" strip along the top where the wall and sand didn't reach the ceiling. Some person on the rifle range shot at their target, the bullet skipped on the slanted sand instead of going into it, went up, richoched off the ceiling tile, went through that 1" crack, richoched off a tile on the other side and angled down and hot a person sitting in a chair in the head. This range had been in operation for several years and even though this was a freak thing, I have never understood why they left that 1"opening along the top.
At our indoor range the bullet traps are thick steel and they angle down in a > shape with the point at the back and a huge concrete and steel backing plate behind it. That way all bullets are channelled into a small space and trapped and it is easy to clean them out. I have shot 50 calibers there and they just glance off the angle and wind up with the smaller calibers, so it is a good design.
As for learning to shoot, my first gun was a single shot 22, although my Father taught me to shoot all of the rifles and hand guns that he had including the German and Italian ones. He was a real stickler on safety and there was always a razor strap near by.
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11-05-2008, 04:34 AM
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Im confused. Why would anyone need to own an uzi?
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11-05-2008, 04:46 AM
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If you live here, they are fun to shoot. If you live in Israel they are almost a required accessory. Same with the 50 caliber handgun I used. Worthless as a defensive weapon as it would go through every house in town before stopping, but a blast to shoot at the range. Same for an AK 47 but they are an assault weapon and there fore banned from all but bank robbers and crooks.
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11-05-2008, 01:59 PM
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It's kind of like a cobra replica. It may have 427 badges on the side, but it may only have a small block.
Whether it's full auto or not, any semi is a dangerous weapon for an inexperienced shooter, as it reloads sometimes without the shooter realizing it, and can discharge easily again at an unintended target.
single shot, bolt action, revolver are safer firearms.
Winchester model 94 is often chosen as an entry level gun, as it's relatively cheap. Unfortunaltely, it has no safety, and to unload, you have to work the rounds through the chamber, and sometimes the gun can discharge while unloading, shooting an unintended target. Also, not a good gun for beginners, children.
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If you are trained right (finger along side the trigger guard until ready to fire) a semi or full auto weapon is just as safe. If you practice your training enough you will find yourself placing your finger their without thinking about it.
Like they taught me in the military "perfect practice makes perfect shooters" 
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11-05-2008, 02:01 PM
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Im confused. Why would anyone need to own an uzi?
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Why do you need a Cobra replica?
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11-05-2008, 06:26 PM
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Eh eh, good point Tenrocca! Why WOULD they need one?
Eh eh, good point SPO1715! Why NOT have one?
An argument that cannot be won. 
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