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View Poll Results: Should US Taxpayers Bail Out the Big Three Automakers?
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Perhaps we mostly agree about the NYT. But, it is not possible to over-state their failures to report responsibly about the credit crunch (my very shorthand way of describing the root causes of our current economic and financial malaise). These failures doom most citizens from gaining any coherent comprehension about the sequence of events, political behaviors committed and omitted, special interests, special deals, preferred access and pre-conceived biases of supposedly "objective" newsfolk. Everyone wants to "make a difference". Well, here it is. Thank you very much you bunch of lying media-whore hypocrites.

If we do not understand what happened either in the depression of 1928 - 1938 or today, we cannot learn enough to avoid it again in the future. But, of course, that is the NYTimes' objective, isn't it? The NYTImes did a masterful job during the FDR days to obfuscate the truth. Don't raise enough awareness of exactly who willfully ignored the specific problems while they were occurring, so as not to cut off the re-election funding and home district political support bot with citizens bail-outs.

Don't you think our mortal enemies would like to see the big 3 fail to continue in some fashion? Wouldn't they plan to take advantage of a perceived weakness, even if they might be wrong (just as Nikita Khruschev misunderstood the political forces that would force JFK to act in the Cuba affair, even if not altogether effectively)?

But, the NYTImes has no apparent responsibility for subsequent events that are encouraged by their cover-ups, not unlike their famous love-affair with that darling of the Hollywood progressive crowd, Comrade Fidel Castro. Their romanticizing of his destructive protocols and murderous commie bias, kept the truth from the American people long enough to prevent timely action regarding the failures of JFK to keep his word and support the counter-revolution.

Not unlike the famous Pulitzer Prize given to the NYTimes "reporter" Walter Duranty for covering-up the Soviet-engineered starvation progroms in Ukraine in 1932-33 (the Holodomor), world opinion was shaped to support the NYTimes' preferred dictator-in-charge, Joseph Stalin. Even today, the NYTimes refuses to remove the PPrize from Walter Duranty's cold dead hands.

http://www.artukraine.com/famineart/duranty55.htm

The depth of the NYTimes insult to American values, culture and history are far too deep to describe here. Yet, more than 1/2 of America's small newspapers, TV and radio stations depend on the Times selection of subjects to discuss and their particular slant on the news for their common beliefs.

The NYT support of the union "solidarity" is legendary and they still will support the UAW down to the destruction of Detroit's capacity to employ, not unlike the PATCO example i referenced previously. The NYT is the leader of the 5th column in this country and influences much of western Europe. Their failure to tell the truth weakens one of our democracy's more important safeguards, a free press.

Economically, they are a basket-case as a result of reader abandonment and dwindling advertiser support. The end cannot come any too soon for me.

Detroit, Michigan, the big 3 and our national truth will benefit thereby, the sooner the better.
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If we do not understand what happened either in the depression of 1928 - 1938 or today, we cannot learn enough to avoid it again in the future. But, of course, that is the NYTimes' objective, isn't it? .
It really doesn't matter if we understand or not, as the polititians (lawyers)don;t really care to know the reasons why, as they will do what they will do no matter what. Lie and do whatever is needed to keep support for them and keep them in office. It's their track record then and now.
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Without regard to style, quality, etc, early versions of the US small and possibly for the time period, fuel efficient cars:

1951 Henry J
1953 Allstate ( sold by Sears, styled like Henry J )
1952 Willys Aero
1953 Hudson Jet
1952 Nash Rambler
1960 Metroploitan
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Chrysler Faces Criticism for Full-Page 'Thank You' Ads

Taxpayers and conservative groups are questioning why Chrysler spent the money to take out a series of full-page newspaper ads thanking Americans for the auto industry bailout.*
By Judson Berger
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008...age-thank-ads/

Chrysler is facing a backlash from taxpayers and conservative groups after the ailing auto company took out a series of full-page newspaper ads last week to thank Americans for "investing" in the company through the government's $17.4 billion auto industry bailout plan.*

Critics say the company, which is expected to receive about $4 billion of that bailout money in the near term, should not be spending its already limited resources on pricey advertisements.*

"It's quite ridiculous to be spending that kind of money," said Princella Smith, national spokeswoman for American Solutions, an organization headed by former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich. "Those ads are just a precise example of the fact that they do not get it ... and it's just in our faces."*

The ads ran last week in several major daily newspapers, including USA Today, The Wall Street Journal and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Since USA Today and The Wall Street Journal are two of the highest-circulation newspapers in the country, full-page ad rates are steep. A full-page ad in The Wall Street Journal runs between $206,000 and $264,000, and a full-page ad in USA Today runs between $112,000 and $217,000.*

Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform, said in a written statement to FOXNews.com that Chrysler should give back the money.*
"Years ago there was a robber who was really polite. He said please and thank you while he was robbing people. At the end of the day, people had their money stolen. Saying thank you doesn't make it OK. They should give the money back," Norquist said.*

Chrysler's ad, which is also posted on the company's Web site, pledges to produce cars and trucks that are attractive to consumers and improve their fuel economy.*

"On behalf of the 1 million people who depend on Chrysler for their livelihoods, thank you for investing in Chrysler, and America," says the statement, signed by CEO Bob Nardelli.*

A representative for Chrysler could not be reached for comment.*

The ad buys have also triggered a wave of criticism on blogs and editorial pages.*

One recent letter to the editor in the Chicago Tribune said the automaker "proved their incompetence" by taking out the ads.*

"How about spending the money on producing cars that work, are fuel efficient, and that people want to buy?" the letter said.
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A few comments from Lucianne.com:
Way to go maroons! Chrysler just showing us how carefully they are going to manage the bailout money. It's going to be a helluva New Year's Eve bash they hold there. Every hooker in town is probably already booked.
I will express my gratitude by staying with Toyotas.
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