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11-28-2008, 06:08 PM
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Goose-stepping in the desert
"This new law takes effect Jan1, 2009. Please understand you can have a license plate frame
holder as long as it doesn't cover the name Arizona on the top your license
plate. If the license plate frame holder covers the name Arizona yo u'll receive
from the nice police officer, a $130.00 ticket! This is your responsibility as
privileged Arizona drivers to know new motor vehicle laws, the state doesn't
send out mailings. So if you have a frame holder that covers the name Arizona on your
license plate, remove it before Jan 1, 2009, and replace it with one that
doesn't cover the name Arizona."
License Plate Holder Law - State law*
requires that the state name at the top of Arizona license plates must be
visible. Any license plate holder or cover that prevents the license plate from
being clearly legible is in violation of this new law.
> > * A.R.S. 28-2354(B.)
Anyone care to hazard a guess as to why they enacted this law?
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11-28-2008, 06:14 PM
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Texas did this about two years ago. The reason they gave was because that the name of the State needed to be visible to the cameras at Toll Booths when you run the booth.Not Paying the toll.
If not visible to the camera the ticket can end up being dismissed.
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11-28-2008, 06:40 PM
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Texas did this about two years ago. The reason they gave was because that the name of the State needed to be visible to the cameras at Toll Booths when you run the booth.Not Paying the toll.
If not visible to the camera the ticket can end up being dismissed.
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Right-Except this isn't a toll situation.It's revenueing.  The gall of this state-making a law that forces the people to assist the state in violating your rights.
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11-28-2008, 06:42 PM
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The wording in my post sucks. 
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11-29-2008, 01:07 PM
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Just like here in ct. Years ago the state created a law that stopped every town from getting money from each ticket an officer wrote. Obviously less tickets where written. Two years ago they recinded the law and now every ticket an officer writes, $10.00 goes to the police dept. GUESS WHAT-they write tickets for anything they can now.
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11-29-2008, 04:45 PM
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Without knowing what state the plate is from a peace officer can't run the vehicle. I used to be a Deputy Sheriff, and this was a problem with out of state vehicles with the state covered.
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11-30-2008, 05:33 PM
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Without knowing what state the plate is from a peace officer can't run the vehicle. I used to be a Deputy Sheriff, and this was a problem with out of state vehicles with the state covered.
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NO SALE.A cop can see colors and recognize the plate."Grand Canyon State" on the bottom is a give-away.THis law is intended for Speed cameras which use Black & white film.
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12-01-2008, 05:44 PM
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NO SALE.A cop can see colors and recognize the plate."Grand Canyon State" on the bottom is a give-away.THis law is intended for Speed cameras which use Black & white film.
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How many vanity plates does Arizona Have? I have a house there, and have been to the DMV and I can tell you they have a lot. I am in Arizona every two weeks and I still see Arizona plates I think are from another state until I get close enough to read the state.
I am telling you my experience from a first hand perspective as a former cop, but if you want to think it is some kind of conspiracy be my guest. |
12-01-2008, 06:10 PM
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How many vanity plates does Arizona Have? I have a house there, and have been to the DMV and I can tell you they have a lot. I am in Arizona every two weeks and I still see Arizona plates I think are from another state until I get close enough to read the state.
I am telling you my experience from a first hand perspective as a former cop, but if you want to think it is some kind of conspiracy be my guest.
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Thanks for the non-sequitur.I didn't say conspiracy,i said this isn't for traffic cops it's so the revenueing cameras can read them.
And those vanity plates you are referring to extremely easy to I.D. and besides,enter the plate in your MDT and if you have a match to the vehicle-three guess what state the plate is from.
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11-30-2008, 08:14 AM
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Problem with that is a local state law does not help that. States must still respect all other states motor vehicle laws. Texas and Arizona cannot ticket a Nebraska Driver for it as it is not a Nebraska law and the vehicle is legal in the state it is registered in.
**So long as that person is a resident of the state it is registered in. In Texas, you have 30 days to change your registration over when you move to Texas.
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11-30-2008, 10:55 AM
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Lets just call it what it is REVENUE for the state and insurance companys who help write the laws. Here in ct we pay $20.00 when we buy a NEW car to NOT have it inspected for emmissions. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE or just REVENUE~~~
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11-30-2008, 11:25 AM
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Great Point! If the camera can't get the correct State...during a speedy photo camera shot...you may get a ticket sent to you for a car in another state. This has happened to me already and it is a "pain in the A**" to get it corrected.
Be wise and just get that little plain chrome lic. plate frame from the PEP Boys.
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11-30-2008, 05:31 PM
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Great Point! If the camera can't get the correct State...during a speedy photo camera shot...you may get a ticket sent to you for a car in another state. This has happened to me already and it is a "pain in the A**" to get it corrected.
Be wise and just get that little plain chrome lic. plate frame from the PEP Boys.
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How was it a pain in the a$$?You simply tell them it wasn't me(you).
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Here in Texas, the picture of the state in the center of the plate is a dead giveaway as well. Not a whole lot of states shaped like Texas.
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12-01-2008, 06:41 AM
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This happened in California and it turned out to be a lic. plate from another state that had violated the law. Had to send in a pictures of my plate (twice) with letters, and phone calls, to the state DMV and point out that the font was different too. Those knuckleheads in California can't even look at a picture of their own state plate and see that the original violators plate was different.
Finially resolved...I think!
Bill
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