Early Reviews of Obama's GM 'Gamble' Don't Look Good

[cobra de capell]

Originally Posted by Jamo

I tend to agree. California's Republican Party is splitting at the seams over this same scenario. I'm a conservative at heart, but getting someone voted into state-wide office requires a moderate persona given the Democrat popular majority, whether we like it or not.

You nailed it - True Conservatives cannot be elected in most districts of CA, they need to campaign from the center and compromise on some issues to get elected.

I believe that 427sharpe's point was that any Conservative that doesn't measure up in all respects in discounted to nothing, so the marginal third party candidate will get his vote or perhaps he doesn't vote at all - it's all of nothing.

A lot of Conservatives have gone over the edge looking for true Conservatives candidates - those people either aren't running or lose in the current statewide and national environment. My fear is the Conservatives will be marginalized by demanding 100%. Newt is a great examble - wrong on Climate Change, so he's out in the view of some Conservatives. In my view, he'd be a perfect match to go against Obama in 2012.

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by cobra de capell

You nailed it - True Conservatives cannot be elected in most districts of CA, they need to campaign from the center and compromise on some issues to get elected.

I believe that 427sharpe's point was that any Conservative that doesn't measure up in all respects in discounted to nothing, so the marginal third party candidate will get his vote or perhaps he doesn't vote at all - it's all of nothing.

A lot of Conservatives have gone over the edge looking for true Conservatives candidates - those people either aren't running or lose in the current statewide and national environment. My fear is the Conservatives will be marginalized by demanding 100%. Newt is a great examble - wrong on Climate Change, so he's out in the view of some Conservatives. In my view, he'd be a perfect match to go against Obama in 2012.

I lived it...My Assembly and Senate districts are represented by Villines and Cogdill, and I campaigned heavily for Mike and Dave. We're probably the most conservative area of California...but, by golly, some pragmatism slipped by us.

[427sharpe]

Originally Posted by cobra de capell

I believe that 427sharpe's point was that any Conservative that doesn't measure up in all respects in discounted to nothing, so the marginal third party candidate will get his vote or perhaps he doesn't vote at all - it's all of nothing.

That is incorrect, recall from my earlier post that I voted for W as the lesser of two evils. In fact I have NEVER missed a vote. I am aware that a person who agrees with me 100% is unelectable; because I realize I am unelectable! A lot of the time, we must do the best we can, and that means attempt to influence the inevitable to make it more palatable. In my case, my local, state and federal representatives all know me..whether they want to or not. I will also actively campaign for what I believe in. In the end, we all have to realize the only way to correct the course is to grab the wheel and get involved. I agree with a lot of Jamo's post...I consider myself a realistic environmentalist; I will protect the ecology but not put a breadwinner out of work to save a snail. Lastly, I think that America could stand a HUGE dose of 'Mind Your Own Damned Business'. And yes, that counts to gay marriage. While I find it objectionable personally, I have zero issue with it as long as the colon cowboys stay to their side of the rectum rodeo and leave me alone in heterosexual bliss.