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09-05-2009, 07:19 AM
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I have a deep respect for the office of President of the United States. That's why I'm so disconcerted about who is occupying it and what he is doing to the memory of our founding fathers and all that this country stands for.
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I try to show my respect for "Our" President everyday.

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09-04-2009, 11:41 PM
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We had just moved to very rural Missouri, after 8 years in D.C., barely unpacked and T-Day coming up fast. About 10 miles to the nearest town. I was at small local market looking for a turkey, none to be found. When I inquired about the lack of turkeys at the store the proprieter asked, "You mean your going to BUY one?" Several folks kind of looked my way with smiles and barely contained chuckles, (I think one of them had a banjo, but thats another story...).
I was SO embarrased, DOH! Drove to another town, far away, hid my frozen turkey in the trunk for fear someone might see it. 
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09-05-2009, 05:16 AM
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Ron/Jamo...cool it or I'll have to lock this thread.....
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09-05-2009, 05:54 AM
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...sorry. We got carried away. It won't happen again...honest.
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09-05-2009, 06:48 AM
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Ernie,
There's 6 out in the pasture right now. I could fix us up for Thanksgiving from the bathroom window if it wasn't that we live in town (and the fact I'm out of subsonic rounds). But then there's 960 acres between me and the next house towards town. 
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09-05-2009, 11:39 AM
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Roscoe, that was a real chuckle about Ron and Jamo! 
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09-08-2009, 12:50 PM
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So now that the speech has been made public do we have anyone that still thinks it is a bad idea? Personally, I think it could have been better written, and maybe a bit more inspirational, but then I'm one of those elitist prigs who is just never satisfied with 'good enough'.
Oh, and for those of you who are convinced that the speech was changed please feel free to prove it. Jim Greer of the GOP in FL has also been squawking about how the speech was supposed to contain all kinds of political rhetoric, but it looks like he was making the whole thing up as he has no evidence to back up his statements. Please feel free to help him out 'cause it doesn't look good when conservative types make baseless accusations.  
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09-08-2009, 01:07 PM
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...my, you do have issues, don't you.
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09-08-2009, 01:45 PM
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Steve,
The Obama camp did considerable back pedaling on the speech saying the announcement was poorly worded. You do not know for sure what his original remarks were so you probably should refrain from doing the same thing you criticized Jim Greer for.
Personally, I read every word of it and did not find it harmful. The kiddos were off to school to hear the illustrious leader give his speech. And since I don't trust him on most other things I can only hope he didn't try to sneak something in like he generally does.
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09-08-2009, 01:50 PM
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The kiddos were off to school to hear the illustrious leader give his speech. .
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Damn it, Bernie... I am mighty proud of you!
(I heard it live...it's probably on the 'Tube by now)
It was squeaky clean and full of motivation...nothing more.
It should become an annual event, no matter who is in office.
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09-08-2009, 03:15 PM
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Steve,
The Obama camp did considerable back pedaling on the speech saying the announcement was poorly worded. You do not know for sure what his original remarks were so you probably should refrain from doing the same thing you criticized Jim Greer for.
Personally, I read every word of it and did not find it harmful. The kiddos were off to school to hear the illustrious leader give his speech. And since I don't trust him on most other things I can only hope he didn't try to sneak something in like he generally does.
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Bernie,
They reworded a couple of minor things in the (optional) lesson plan. There was nothing considerable about it. Nope, I have no idea what the original speech was - if there even was a different version, and neither does anybody else on this forum. To assume there was a different version is not based on any evidence we have. To assume that there was not is also based on evidence we do not have. And that was why I said that the lesson plan will have to be taken in context with the actual speech rather than rushing to judgment like just about everyone else here did.
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09-08-2009, 02:13 PM
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Ron,
Nothing to be proud of. I was being the same logical and fair minded person that I always am. 
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09-08-2009, 02:53 PM
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Steve, your argumentative skills astound..... I'll play along...
No! You prove it didn't!
You got one thing right... poorly written is an understatement.
If this should be an annual event, I certainly hope which ever president will obtain a reasonable grammarian to write this type of lengthy diatribe.
(considering the released text) Hey O, tell me how many American kids were actually seeking an education in Indonesia?
squeaky clean? That's the moronic statement of the thread. This speech was quite the hypocritical parallel to his rise to power.
Additionally, since Steve seems to have neglected his "equal time" critiques of "both" political parties.... Do you think the Republicans will call for the same GAO inquiry as the Democrats demanded for Bush?
It is amazing how comparatively blind some choose to be.... ignorant fools!
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09-08-2009, 02:58 PM
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squeaky clean? That's the moronic statement of the thread.
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Actually, it's not.
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09-08-2009, 03:00 PM
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Actually, it's not.
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You and Steve must have been on the same debate team......
In actuality, (Yes it is) to the n+1, where n is the number of time you may argue that "it's not."
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09-08-2009, 03:06 PM
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For some unknown reason, you have come here with an incredible chip on your shoulder and an angst that borders on incomprehension.
You may think you have that liberty here. Well, you don't.
Either adjust and discuss topics in the forum or just move on to some other site.
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09-08-2009, 10:19 PM
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Steve, your argumentative skills astound..... I'll play along...
No! You prove it didn't!
You got one thing right... poorly written is an understatement.
If this should be an annual event, I certainly hope which ever president will obtain a reasonable grammarian to write this type of lengthy diatribe.
(considering the released text) Hey O, tell me how many American kids were actually seeking an education in Indonesia?
squeaky clean? That's the moronic statement of the thread. This speech was quite the hypocritical parallel to his rise to power.
Additionally, since Steve seems to have neglected his "equal time" critiques of "both" political parties.... Do you think the Republicans will call for the same GAO inquiry as the Democrats demanded for Bush?
It is amazing how comparatively blind some choose to be.... ignorant fools!
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So from your sarcastic response I'm guessing that you are in favour of jumping to conclusions without all the facts? Or is that only when it can be done to make your political enemies look bad?
As for the DNC asking for a GAO accounting - I already mentioned that the GOP does not have a lock on stupid - please pay attention. (And this is for Mike also) The DNC made a mistake and if CC was around back then I would have posted saying so. So is this petty revenge for what the DNC did back then? If so it is just as small-minded and ignorant as what the DNC did.
I find it funny that a lot of you complain about a sitting President making a non-political speech encouraging kids to do their homework and stay in school, but none of you made a single peep when the Lakota High School shut down early, and had the choir and school band perform when Bush came through on a campaign tour.
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09-09-2009, 10:23 AM
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So from your sarcastic response I'm guessing that you are in favour of jumping to conclusions without all the facts? Or is that only when it can be done to make your political enemies look bad?
As for the DNC asking for a GAO accounting - I already mentioned that the GOP does not have a lock on stupid - please pay attention. (And this is for Mike also) The DNC made a mistake and if CC was around back then I would have posted saying so. So is this petty revenge for what the DNC did back then? If so it is just as small-minded and ignorant as what the DNC did.
I find it funny that a lot of you complain about a sitting President making a non-political speech encouraging kids to do their homework and stay in school, but none of you made a single peep when the Lakota High School shut down early, and had the choir and school band perform when Bush came through on a campaign tour.
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The only time a non-political utterance has come out of obummers mouth, it was a gaff. Or like insinuating the cop was a racist, both political AND a gaff
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09-08-2009, 03:33 PM
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It's funny CW, I WAS discussing it, (moronic by saying it was squeaky clean when his rise to power clearly was not a advancement based on merit)
You first deviated from discussion with the "no, it's not" response. All my "discussions" have been comments to responses posted by posters.
Pseudo fair enough, I will ban myself, RATHER THAN THE THREAD. It appears you feel I need a 'cooling' off period.
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09-08-2009, 03:36 PM
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Thanks... a few days should do it.
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