Ethanol in our fuel, have your say!

[CHANMADD]

I'm perplexed........How long and at what cost to the "planet"........the only home that we and our decendants will ever have..........Ethanol is renewable........Fracking is the biggest rape being perpetrated on our planet right now........it is destroying ground water everywhere that they drill........... Oil I believe will come back to haunt us from the pockets left underground from the oil extraction...........we are all so selfish that we can't see the damage being done to the earth .......Do you know that the oil companies around the world operate without any legal or government restrictions , with their only motive being money.....?

[Tommy]

Channmadd,
I suppose I feel as strong an obligation to provide more affordable food for people here on Earth today as you do help out people you will never know. ... No one can accurately predict what future technologies and situations might affect unborn generations. Thus, the best we can do is make life as comfortable and bearable as we can during the time we are here. ... One of the great pearls of wisdom is that "today's problem is yesterday's solution." It's as true now as it was 100 years ago and will be 100 years from now.

[Z-linkCobra]

Originally Posted by Tommy

Channmadd,
I suppose I feel as strong an obligation to provide more affordable food for people here on Earth today as you do help out people you will never know. ... No one can accurately predict what future technologies and situations might affect unborn generations. Thus, the best we can do is make life as comfortable and bearable as we can during the time we are here. ... One of the great pearls of wisdom is that "today's problem is yesterday's solution." It's as true now as it was 100 years ago and will be 100 years from now.

Right now it seems as all of it falls into one category " This is the best bad idea we have "

[1985 CCX]

My engine is a hybrid...........

Burns gas and rubber.......

Tree hugger or not perception is far from reality and the laws of physics say the total energy of a system remains constant, though energy may transform into another form. Global warming is part of the earths cycle and E10, E85 etc will not change that.

This can be food, less CO2 emission wise (Leafpeepers) or an assortment of other goodies. Big negative -OH eats up rubber seals.......

I say use natural gas reserves as a resource and keep corn on the table.

Reminds me of the electric car debate:
In NH 85%+ of generated electric is from Natural gas or oil reserves....
Electric cars add a middleman to grab a few % points.......
Battery disposal is not green nor sustainable........
Setting aside a few models for the most part hideous to look at.....
Also, they burn fuel at temps under 32F to keep battery from freezing.... Hmmmm

[Tutosnake]

I stopped buying ethanol gas, and my carb is happy,happy...
Only race fuel now.

[doleauto]

I have to live with this crap on a daily basis. The only thing I have found that stabilizes the fuel in the car over the winter is SeaFoam Motor Treatment. Both Gino and I put a pint in the tank in the fall, and the car fires flawlessly in the spring.
However, my customers fuel injection problems, lack of horsepower, etc, is the fault of the government. We are putting FOOD in our gas tank, at a rate far more expensive and damaging to the economy and environment that if we stayed with "normal" gasoline. Look what the federal government has done to the diesel pickups. None of them run the way they were designed because of the cetane rating. They were designed to be run on 50 cetane, like the feds told the manufacturers, then hurricane Katrina came and the oil companies told the feds they could only produce 35 to 38 cetane. That is what we are dealing with today.
I have 2 Cub Cadet tractors, a 68 and a 69. Both have to have the fuel tank removed and white particles flushed out every year. The particles look like shredded styrofoam. But, what has the federal government done for us that makes sense----TPMS? And, at what cost?
We are now talking about DELIBERATELY manufacturing fuel that is damaging to your car, AND voiding the warranty at the same time?

Tom

[ERA2076]

Originally Posted by CHANMADD

I'm perplexed........How long and at what cost to the "planet"........the only home that we and our decendants will ever have..........Ethanol is renewable........Fracking is the biggest rape being perpetrated on our planet right now........it is destroying ground water everywhere that they drill........... Oil I believe will come back to haunt us from the pockets left underground from the oil extraction...........we are all so selfish that we can't see the damage being done to the earth .......Do you know that the oil companies around the world operate without any legal or government restrictions , with their only motive being money.....?

Western governments are spraying their populations nearly every day and we either don't recognize it or are apathetic to it. Instead we hand wring over the agenda promoted in Govco indoctrination centers - very frustrating.

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