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		Due to the lack of  zinc in modern motor oils, I've been using a ZDDP additive to protect the flat tappets and camshaft in my 57 T-Bird, Y Block, 312.  
From the perspective of 'there's never too much of a good thing', other than cost, would there be any benefit or downside of using this additive in a motor with roller tappets?  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		I use an additive on all my engines.   In theory, it will decrease bearing wear and glassification of the cylinder walls and rings.    
 
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		Thx. Just did a search of the forum. Lotsa info. Seems the consensus is that it cant hurt. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		If you want "belt and suspenders", then Joe Gibbs XP3 and Cam Shield.  You will be oozing ZDDP!   
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		I use Brad Penn in everything..... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		I picked you a case of Brad Penn for Coach Mike last week when I was in Lawrenceburg, Tenn at a speedshop. Cost $69 a case. 
 
Local race guys use it and claim it's the best they have tried. 
 
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		Brad Penn Green, (20-50) with zink additive is $145 smackers a case in Ontario Canada.  It is very hard to find, and has to be ordered ahead of time.  The product is not usually kept in stock, and I find it at a speed shop 56 KLMS from my home.  I use 14 quarts of  oil every change.  With the WIX  oil filter, the cost for an  oil change is a little over two bills every 3000 miles.  I'm not wineing, but I think you get what you pay for.  Crappy Tire does not fill the bill.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		maybe having it shipped in from the US from a dealer may be cheaper for you. 
have no idea what shipping and customs would do but it may be worth looking at. 
a case sells for 68.00..plus shipping 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Mother 
Don't know where you are buying your B/P  oil but you are being ripped a new one..   
the last 4 cases I bought were in the neighborhood of $65:00 plus tax/case. 
RP  oil
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They may ship direct to you if you don't want the drive.they are the distributor & probably sell to the retailer you are buying from.
 
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		Bob!  'A 57 T-Bird?  All that time in B'ham and I didn't get to see your '57 T-Bird?  Ha!  Have a Merry Christmas! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		....Ward, it wasn't ready for prime time. Enjoy the sunshine and warm weather. Merry Christmas! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		jegs has free shipping and handling buy it from them it shows up 3 days later at your front door. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				jegs has free shipping and handling buy it from them it shows up 3 days later at your front door. 
			
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 I get my Brad Penn off of Amazon.  I just checked and a case of twelve is $67.91 with  free shipping for those of us with Prime, like me.   
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Keith Craft sells and uses Joe Gibbs  oil in all his engines. As I do. 
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 Amazon has all the Joe Gibbs  oil flavors as well, with free shipping for Prime, but I was surprised to see that the price of Joe Gibbs is about double that of Brad Penn.   
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				Amazon has all the Joe Gibbs oil flavors as well, with free shipping for Prime, but I was surprised to see that the price of Joe Gibbs is about double that of Brad Penn.   
			
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		M1, 15w50.  
 
It has all the goodies needed without the "Cobra Tax" added to all the halo oils' prices. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				M1, 15w50.  
 
It has all the goodies needed without the "Cobra Tax" added to all the halo oils' prices. 
			
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 Mobile 1 at the 50w level is good for ZDDP, see below.   BUT, once you drop down below that weight the ZDDP in Mobile 1 drops to 700ppm.  Totally unacceptable for solid flat tappets.  So, with all the stupid people we have on this forum, who are seemingly incapable of reading critically, you should, as a Christmas act of charity, wave that flag in front of their blind eyes....  Maybe jump up and down, too.  
  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				Amazon has all the Joe Gibbs oil flavors as well, with free shipping for Prime, but I was surprised to see that the price of Joe Gibbs is about double that of Brad Penn.   
			
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 Yep, I about stroked out when I went and picked up a case of Joe's stuff.  Not cheap, but has all the good stuff in it.  I'm sure Joe isn't making it himself.  Curious who is making it for him?  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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