Club Cobra GasN Exhaust  

Go Back   Club Cobra > Cobra Talk Areas > Originality Forum

Nevada Classics
Main Menu
Module Jump:
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Keith Craft Racing
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
MMG Superformance
Keith Craft Racing
MMG Superformance
April 2024
S M T W T F S
  1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30        

Kirkham Motorsports

Like Tree20Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 03-20-2021, 01:42 PM
cycleguy55's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: White City, SK
Cobra Make, Engine: West Coast, 460 CID
Posts: 2,850
Not Ranked     
Default Restoration of CSX 2196 - a.k.a. "The Turd"

Interesting article about one of the rarest of all Cobras - and the Milton, Ontario shop doing the restoration.

This Cobra also stands apart because of its one-of-two, all-aluminum 390-cubic inch V-8. That engine was originally shipped to Le Mans for the Daytona Coupe, then shipped back and installed in CSX2196. Legendary is currently restoring this one-of-one Shelby, and, with the car stripped to skeleton and powertrain, its remarkable lightweight construction is laid bare. Every metal panel that could be drilled was—even the pedals resemble Swiss cheese.

“It’s a 1600-pound, 500-plus horsepower, cheater, house car”


https://www.hagerty.com/media/opinio...toration-shop/













Dominik, Tommy, AndrewB and 4 others like this.
__________________
Brian
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 03-20-2021, 05:19 PM
ERA 626's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Danville, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 6079 482CI CSX cross ram
Posts: 1,354
Not Ranked     
Default

amazing... keep posting photos please
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 03-20-2021, 07:45 PM
kitcarbp's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Potomac, MD
Cobra Make, Engine: West Coast, 460 Ford Racing Crate w/ TREMEC TKO 600
Posts: 732
Not Ranked     
Default

Very cool
__________________
"...some assembly required, ages 8 and up...... well that took longer than expected......
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 03-20-2021, 08:24 PM
hauss's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Lodi, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: 427 manowar forged crank roller rockers . BIG CAM.
Posts: 784
Not Ranked     
Default

The Turd reely?
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 03-20-2021, 09:57 PM
CC Member / Sponsor
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Provo, UT
Cobra Make, Engine: Daytona Coupe
Posts: 1,356
Not Ranked     
Default

Wow lots of cool details.

You have to love the 58 DSF Weber carbs.

Heim joint suspension
Rear upright extension piece.
boxed rear shock mount
boxed rear A-arm mount
big fuel tank
Lots of Daytona Coupe style mods
And lots of swiss cheese...
eschaider and cycleguy55 like this.
__________________
Evolve Lubricants
https://evolvelube.com/
Cubic Performance
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 03-20-2021, 10:09 PM
CC Member / Sponsor
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Provo, UT
Cobra Make, Engine: Daytona Coupe
Posts: 1,356
Not Ranked     
Default

As a side note, csx2196 tested with 58 mm Webers at Riverside, but raced with a single four at Nassau.
__________________
Evolve Lubricants
https://evolvelube.com/
Cubic Performance
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 03-20-2021, 10:51 PM
LMH's Avatar
LMH LMH is offline
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 5,390
Not Ranked     
Default

Very cool! I'd like to know more about the rear hub carrier extension on the leaf spring!
Larry
Riverside racer likes this.
__________________
Alba gu bràth
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 03-20-2021, 10:58 PM
kris-kincaid's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Cobra Make, Engine: 427 SC
Posts: 388
Send a message via AIM to kris-kincaid Send a message via Skype™ to kris-kincaid
Not Ranked     
Default

What’s the purpose of the upright extension? I’ve never even heard of that. Do you suppose that is original to the car?

The rear arms are totally unique, mounting the bolts in double sheer with the forward heim on the front side of the mount. I assume these arms are flip-top only?

Always wanted to see this chassis

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Kirkham View Post
Wow lots of cool details.

You have to love the 58 DSF Weber carbs.

Heim joint suspension
Rear upright extension piece.
boxed rear shock mount
boxed rear A-arm mount
big fuel tank
Lots of Daytona Coupe style mods
And lots of swiss cheese...
Riverside racer likes this.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 03-20-2021, 11:50 PM
Dominik's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Cape Town, South Africa/Mainz, Germany,
Posts: 1,601
Not Ranked     
Default

This going to be the next car which you can buy from Provo :-)
I always loved this one.
__________________
If I don't respond anymore, that's because I can't log in
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2021, 07:06 AM
Sawdust's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: North of Toronto, Ont
Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance #1950, Roush 402R, TKO600
Posts: 552
Not Ranked     
Default

I was fortunate to see the “Turd” at Legendary Motor Car’s shop last summer. A very interesting Cobra for sure. Peter’s restoration skills are second to none.

Thanks for sharing those pics Brian.
cycleguy55 likes this.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2021, 08:25 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Mendota, IL
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 693
Not Ranked     
Default

Could someone comment on the hubs if they know anything about them? The fronts appear to be pin drive. The rear are for spline drive but have drive pins. I have been told many have been converted. But i think when they did that they used to have 5 bolts to hold the rotors on. So they were then drill to the 6 pin pattern. Because of this there should be extra holes that I am not seeing.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2021, 09:56 AM
t walgamuth's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Lafayette, IN
Cobra Make, Engine: Looking to buy
Posts: 1,295
Not Ranked     
Default

Can't get more one of a kind than this.
__________________
Cobra loving, autocrossing Grandpa Architect.
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2021, 11:59 AM
CC Member / Sponsor
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Provo, UT
Cobra Make, Engine: Daytona Coupe
Posts: 1,356
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kris-kincaid View Post
What’s the purpose of the upright extension? I’ve never even heard of that. Do you suppose that is original to the car?...
Upright extensions are typically used to change the camber curve. However, on CSX2196 I believe it was to raise the ride height to counteract the fuel tank that is both larger and further back.

Yes, it is original to the car. The extension can just be made out in a very famous picture.
__________________
Evolve Lubricants
https://evolvelube.com/
Cubic Performance
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2021, 12:23 PM
CC Member / Sponsor
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Provo, UT
Cobra Make, Engine: Daytona Coupe
Posts: 1,356
Not Ranked     
Wink



Look close...
__________________
Evolve Lubricants
https://evolvelube.com/
Cubic Performance
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2021, 04:32 PM
xb-60's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Adelaide, SA
Cobra Make, Engine: AP 289FIA 'English' spec.
Posts: 13,139
Not Ranked     
Default

Fantastic shots Brian. Keep them coming (if you can?)

Cheers!
Glen
cycleguy55 likes this.
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2021, 05:28 PM
Buzz's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: St. Lucia, West Indies, WI
Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427SC 383 stroker
Posts: 3,725
Not Ranked     
Default

One of the members here was friends with the owner of the Turd - aka Fliptop - and actually got to drive it at the track. There's been extensive posts about it over the years that should be easy to find with a forum search. Nice to see it being restored.
__________________
Tropical Buzz

Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the strength to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. -(wasn't me)

BEWARE OF THE DOGma!! Dogmatism bites...
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 03-22-2021, 07:25 AM
1985 CCX's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester, NH
Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and Scratch 427 S/C
Posts: 18,779
Not Ranked     
Default

My son said it was the fastest car he's been in..... LOL
Attached Images
 
Buzz, CompClassics, 1795 and 1 others like this.

Last edited by 1985 CCX; 03-22-2021 at 07:27 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 03-22-2021, 09:10 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 228
Not Ranked     
Default

It has a wider track because the body is wider too. You can see it on old pics, where the straps were weldet in and where the rear section was spreaded. I guess 3" complete from rear to cockpit each side and the lower part an additional 2 or 2.5" to get the lower side wider. The front is wider too. Someone on the forum measured years ago the center to center headlight distance. Regular distance is approx. 44.5" and the Turd was stated 48" as far as I can remember.
Attached Images
 
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 03-22-2021, 09:29 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Cobra Make, Engine: AC cox 2699 roadster Riverside FIA RSR2001
Posts: 263
Not Ranked     
Default

I am thinking the extension may be for ride height to prevent bottoming out due to weight at the rear.
LMH likes this.
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 03-22-2021, 01:09 PM
bwcobra15's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Midlothian, TX
Cobra Make, Engine: Hurricane 427 Cobra #HM2008, Craft Performance 427w 600hp/600tq, TKO-600 close ratio, original Smiths gauges, lucas switches
Posts: 1,018
Send a message via Yahoo to bwcobra15 Send a message via Skype™ to bwcobra15
Not Ranked     
Default

thanks for linking the pictures from the original article but they are GINOROUS, makes reading the the articles a real PITA scrolling left/right
twobjshelbys likes this.
__________________
Bob Worley
Hurricane HM-2008 build is done!! (for now....)
Craft Perfomance 427W / 600hp / 600tq - TKO600

I love it and I need it I bleed it ~ Yeah it's a wild hurricane ~ Alright, hold tight, I'm a highway star!!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:49 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy
Links monetized by VigLink