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08-23-2006, 07:46 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: centralia,
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Cobra Make, Engine: B&B cobra (sold), Hurricane HMS1002 (sold), Kirkham 289 FIA, (sold) RCR GT 40(sold) SPF GT40 2122(sold) Hurricane HMS2002, (sold) RCR SLC (sold) GTR on the way!
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hood rivits, again
Did the 289 cars have rivots in the hood?
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08-23-2006, 07:58 PM
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No. That started with the 427.
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08-23-2006, 08:00 PM
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As a generalization...no.
Unlike the consistently riveted leading edge of the 427 Comp cars, the vast majority of 289 competition cars did not have that add-on.
The exceptions...It is curious that the Sebring cars (CSX2127,2128, 2129) had the hood rivets, but in a smaller number than the 427 patterns.
They also were seen on FIA car CSX2345, but not the other FIA and USRRC cars.
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08-23-2006, 08:00 PM
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Speaking of rivets, what kind do I need for the hoodscoop...and where do I get 'em?
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08-24-2006, 10:52 AM
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I have photos of Ken Miles' 289 Cobra csx2341 at Greenwood in July of 1964. It clearly has hood rivets.
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08-24-2006, 11:04 AM
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289 FIA (all) cars did have hood rivets.
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08-24-2006, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by csx700?
289 FIA (all) cars did have hood rivets.
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Ummmaybe not. Especially when Phil didn't see 'em on the only un-rebodied original FIA...
Here's CSX2259:
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08-24-2006, 12:39 PM
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strictlypersonl
the car in the photo is not the original "2259". the car belongs to lyn park and in is a "clone" of the original. if you look at the car it doesn't have wiper arms or washer nozzles either. take a look at some period photos of the original "2259". i don"t think the "FIA" inspectors would have accepted the car without wipers do you? the original race cars were shipped without a paint job and all the modifications (hood rivets, trunk bungee cord holes, etc...) were done prior to painting which is why the rivets are so hard to see in photos. i accept apologies.........
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08-24-2006, 01:28 PM
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Csx2345
I know that, deep down inside, Bob MEANT to refer to CSX2345 (not CSX2259), the former Mike Shoen car that is reputed to be the ONLY original 289 FIA car with all of its original bodywork still intact. THIS is the car that Phil at ERA used to perfect the shape of the ERA 289 FIA car:
....and, BTW, it does have hood rivets.
This car is normally on display at The Shelby American Collection in Boulder, CO. Last month, it joined a few of its vintage team-mates for a little exercise at VIR during SAAC 31.
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first ERA FIA
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08-24-2006, 03:07 PM
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thanks for sharing the photos of 2345. you wouldn't happen to have more photos of 2345 would you? i'm especially looking for engine compartment shots (details). thanks.........
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08-24-2006, 03:13 PM
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csx700?
Yes, I have a few engine detail shots I took of CSX2345. If you send an email to me at: cobrajeff at comcast dot net , I'd be happy to share them with you.
regards,
Jeff
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08-24-2006, 04:25 PM
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I stand corrected. 
I was actually thinking of the hood scoop having no rivets, but I also thought there weren't any around the edges either. Now I'm going to have to recall all our 289s to have the rivets installed. 
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Excuse my ignorance, but, what did the rivets hold together? Do people put rivets on fiberglass hoods or hoods in general if they don't hold things together?
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08-24-2006, 05:27 PM
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The hood skin was wrapped around sheet steel that was welded to the periferal tubing. At speed the alumin(i)um skin apparantly tended to come loose, so the rivets were added to hold everything together.
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cobrajeff
thank you for emailing the photos.
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