Oil Cooler Fittings

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by Manowar

Sal
Don't be sorry! I can stand corrected-if I'm truly mistaken.
Please amplify what I've got wrong-fitting type and finish? Hose type? Hose size? Please reveal the source of your reference.
I based my post on seeing Hal Keck's 3008 at Charlotte in 1991 with the above (I have a snapshot) and the fact that based on seeing that car, I ordered from Guenstler the hose and fittings before realizing my cooler was -10 male and he sent -12. (Which 3008 was). He also very kindly let me return it with no restocking fee.
So I was mistaken then and I could be now-just show me where you did your research.
Thanks,

The setup shown on the picture I posted of my car, is correct. The oil cooler is female pipe thread. Then a blue hard 90, pipe into the cooler, and -12 on the hose side. Coming off that, it's an AN style screw together fitting. The flats of the fitting are completely flat, as opposed to what some restorers use on these cars, where the wrench flats have a rounded edge to them. Then the hose socket is short, with the small neck and sharp transision to the neck, just like in my pic, as opposed to the long tapered socket that some people use. The fitting is actually a -12 to -10 "jump" fitting. The nut site is -12 and the socket side is -10, but it takes an odd hose that's kind of in between the two.

I spent A LOT of time into the research of this, talking to many people who are knowledgable in this stuff. Some are fellow board members here, some are original car owners. I also have great reference pics of lots of original cars.

The hardest part of finding the truth behind the correctness of these cars, is that most of them have been modified over the years. Even cars that are touted as very original, have had most of the important detail parts changed over the years. Comp cars especially are usually VERY altered from as they came from Shelby, even if it's just from routine racing replacements of stock parts.

BTW, we are putting together a new motor for my brother's Mustang, and using a ManOWar block. This thing is insane. The only thing that sucks is making the oil pan fit the mains in the rear!

[santij]

Originally Posted by Power Surge

The setup shown on the picture I posted of my car, is correct.

hello sal,
reading this old forum and seems that you are the expert. had a question about these oil cooler hole. was there only 1 correct shape (yours)?

i've seen so many different shapes.

what cars came with these holes? you mentioned only S/C cars? but i've also seen them on street and comp cars, even on 289s.

just curious, thanks.

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by santij

hello sal,
reading this old forum and seems that you are the expert. had a question about these oil cooler hole. was there only 1 correct shape (yours)?

i've seen so many different shapes.

what cars came with these holes? you mentioned only S/C cars? but i've also seen them on street and comp cars, even on 289s.

just curious, thanks.

I credit some of my knowledge to many others, but I do like the details.

What oil cooler "hole" do you mean??

[santij]

Originally Posted by Power Surge

I credit some of my knowledge to many others, but I do like the details.

What oil cooler "hole" do you mean??

sorry for being unclear. guess it's called the "scoop" on the body front. below the big oval radiator hole?

thanks.

[Cobra #3170]

Originally Posted by Power Surge

The setup shown on the picture I posted of my car, is correct. The oil cooler is female pipe thread. Then a blue hard 90, pipe into the cooler, and -12 on the hose side. Coming off that, it's an AN style screw together fitting. The flats of the fitting are completely flat, as opposed to what some restorers use on these cars, where the wrench flats have a rounded edge to them. Then the hose socket is short, with the small neck and sharp transision to the neck, just like in my pic, as opposed to the long tapered socket that some people use. The fitting is actually a -12 to -10 "jump" fitting. The nut site is -12 and the socket side is -10, but it takes an odd hose that's kind of in between the two.

I spent A LOT of time into the research of this, talking to many people who are knowledgable in this stuff. Some are fellow board members here, some are original car owners. I also have great reference pics of lots of original cars.

The hardest part of finding the truth behind the correctness of these cars, is that most of them have been modified over the years. Even cars that are touted as very original, have had most of the important detail parts changed over the years. Comp cars especially are usually VERY altered from as they came from Shelby, even if it's just from routine racing replacements of stock parts.

BTW, we are putting together a new motor for my brother's Mustang, and using a ManOWar block. This thing is insane. The only thing that sucks is making the oil pan fit the mains in the rear!

My memory is getting very fuzzy but as I remember my car was configured exactly as Sal indicated with the 10-12 step down at the cooler. I remember thinking that it was a bad idea and would restrict oil flow at the time. I still use the steel hydraulic fittings and fabric covered hose although everything is #12 on the pressure side and #16 on oil tank return and feed. As others have stated those hoses and fittings have been changed dozens of times over the years.