CA reg plans - TOP now, waiting for 2007 SB100 - Page 3

ffrcobra_65 · #1 (**permalink**) 11-01-2006, 10:49 AM

How long has it been since you turned in all your completed paperwork? Sometimes, DMV does take 6 weeks. I have had several title transfer stuff with DMV and some took 2 weeks and some took almost 2 months before I got stuff in the mail.

pmfranke · #2 (**permalink**) 11-01-2006, 05:59 PM

it's been two weeks so i guess i should just wait.The dmv gave me another TOP till jan 31, just feels like something will happen after the new year,like i'll have to pay some more . wah ,wine ,wah,wine a little cheese with the wine

Got the Bug · #3 (**permalink**) 11-01-2006, 07:59 PM

What is "Titles Unlimited?" I was looking at an SPF on Cobra Country. The car is located in Indiana and the based on the emails that I traded with the seller, the car is registered as a 65 Ford Convertible with the VIN plate from "an original 65 convertible." Any idea if that would create any problems registering the car and applying for SB-100?

Thanks.

jdog · #4 (**permalink**) 11-01-2006, 08:45 PM

Run, don't walk, away from that car, if you intend to bring it into Calif.! Your chances of having an easy registration experience are slim. Plenty of other properly registered cars out there to choose from, it's not worth the risk.

Do a search here on CC for "Titles Unlimited". You'll find out everything you need to know!

jdog

Randy Rosenberg · #5 (**permalink**) 11-02-2006, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Got the Bug

the car is registered as a 65 Ford Convertible with the VIN plate from "an original 65 convertible." Any idea if that would create any problems registering the car and applying for SB-100?
Thanks.

In California doing the above VIN swap is considered a Felony.

Got the Bug · #6 (**permalink**) 11-01-2006, 09:16 PM

Thanks Jdog! Are there specific States and/or title conditions that make it easier to register a car in California?

jdog · #7 (**permalink**) 11-01-2006, 09:56 PM

Just properly registered as what it truly is.
A Superformance should be registered as a Specially Constructed Vehicle with 'Superformance' as the manufacture. It's not a "Ford" anything.

Good luck!
jdog
P.S. My car is registered as a 2006 Specially Constructed Vehicle, & 1965 is the model year.

ffrcobra_65 · #8 (**permalink**) 11-02-2006, 10:14 AM

Got The Bug

Jdog and Randy are right on. Don't even think about bringing that SPF with a felonous VIN on it to California. What happens if you do?
You go to DMV to try to register it in Calif, and the clerk will not know how to handle it, calls the supervisor, the supervisor looks at the current registration, tells you to wait a second, goes to the back room to report your car to Sacramento, Sacramento puts your car in a database for fraudulantly registered cars, Supervisor tells you "no can do" and strongly advises you to remove the car from the state of CA or it will confiscated if seen being driven on California road. Later on, you may get a visit from the Sheriff.

Anyway, if you take the time, you will find a Cobra for sale here in CA that is already properly registered. Mind you will pay a little extra for one that is already SB100 registered but it is all worth it.

Bottom line is, if you bring a "clean" cobra from out of state, no matter how it is titled from that state, California will make you do the SPCN registration -no ands, ifs, buts about it, period! BTW, best to stay away from Alabama titles.

Dinobyte · #9 (**permalink**) 12-01-2006, 08:19 AM

Just so I am clear, the Brake and Light inspection and corresponding form 256 does not have to be completed on my first visit to the DMV witht he car and form 343 and 5036 completed...correct?

dlang14 · #10 (**permalink**) 12-01-2006, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dinobyte

Just so I am clear, the Brake and Light inspection and corresponding form 256 does not have to be completed on my first visit to the DMV witht he car and form 343 and 5036 completed...correct?

Absolutely correct. Did you get your car? Lets see some pics!

Daryl

Dinobyte · #11 (**permalink**) 12-01-2006, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dlang14

Absolutely correct. Did you get your car? Lets see some pics!

Daryl

I should get the car next week...Tuesday - Thursday sometime. It was put on the truck this Wednesday. However as seen by all, a heck of a winter storm is zipping through the midwest and upper mideast sections of the country...which just happens to be in route of my delivery vehicle courtesy of Inner City Transport. Her is the link to the gallery at Vintage Motorsports with all the pics of the car if you would like to see it.

http://www.vintage-motorsports.com/gallery/BDR395

captnken · #12 (**permalink**) 12-04-2006, 05:49 PM

I stumbled across your excellent forum while trying to research SB100 for my currently registered, but unable to smog, Olds replica (looks like a buggy). Seems DMV allowed me to register it for the first time in Calif with a 18 cc displacement Kohler engine. Totally not approved for CA roads. What did I know. Never went to BAR. Got plates, etc. Have had it non-operational. Get annual registration notices. Well, thinking about selling it. Find that smog certif. required. Guess what. Can't smog. Shouldn't have been licensed to begin with. DMV fault, but guess whose got the problem. So I have an 8am appt. Jan2 in Long Beach. My question is: If you sell your vehicle, does the SB100 exemption pass on to the buyer with no problems, addtnl fees, etc? A page on DMV site for SPCNS (this must be what Cobra kit cars are) states, SPCNS Certificates of Sequence cannot be transferred to a different vehicle or reissued in someone else's name. What's with this reissuing stuff?

Ken in Seal Beach

jdog · #13 (**permalink**) 12-04-2006, 06:32 PM

SB100 numbers are issued to the car & stay with the car.

Good Luck
jdog

Hray · #14 (**permalink**) 12-07-2006, 09:43 AM

I can only offer my experience; I brought in a SPCNS car from out of state that came with a title. Instead of dealing with the out of state stuff I remove the plates from the car. removed the plastic vin number that was assigned to the car. went to dmv and completed a form 'statement of facts'. claimed I built the car and then got title and registration with no problems. I am not sure it was the perfect way to get it done but it seemed to be best for me at the time. Sometime the less the DMV knows the better off you are.

In somecases the seller might be better off to remove the vin, tear up the stuff from thier state (and or tell thier state they junked the vehicle) and then issue a bill of sale for the car and let the new owner go thru the process with thier own state dmv. This will vary on the orginations state and new destination state.

ffrcobra_65 · #15 (**permalink**) 12-08-2006, 10:53 AM

Numbers are not issued in sequence. Just because u got a 493, doesn't mean there were only 7 left. Buddies of mine, 9 of them, got inline and were phoned in all at the same time, there seqence numbers were all over the place....some had numbers in the 100s, some in the 300's, etc.
If I don't get one, I will post my sad story. hahaahah

Igofastr · #16 (**permalink**) 12-08-2006, 01:57 PM

FFRCobra,

You may be right about the "out of sequence" thing, but my understanding was that the last of the numbers were gone by noon-ish, and I don't know of anybody who got a number the next day.

There was a thread like this last year, and some of us reported back our findings after the big event. I haven't looked for the thread, but again, I believe all numbers were spoken for fairly early in the day. Additionally, there were rumors that blocks of numbers had been set aside for the larger commercial interests (Boyd Coddington, etc), as well as friends and families of state politicians. This might help account for the apparent hopping around of numbers.

In anycase, I would definitely not count on any SB100 numbers being available the next day...the trend from the beginning was that the numbers were getting used up earlier and earlier each year, to the point that they are now gone the first day.

RedBarchetta · #17 (**permalink**) 12-08-2006, 02:30 PM

2004 = all numbers gone by last week in February (I received #395 and it was not in sequence).
2005 = approx. 3-3.5 days
2006 = approx. 4-5 hours

ffrcobra_65 · #18 (**permalink**) 12-12-2006, 03:28 PM

Hi Ron. Yep, you are right about how quickly the numbers were issued in 2005 and 2006. I know for 2006, they were all issued by early afternoon. But my point is, if one makes the effort to get all their paperwork in order, be in line very early at the DMV on the first business day of the new year, then one has an excellent chance of getting a number. FFROG has excellent info on SB100 and forum members who went through the process posted their experience there. Yes, many also did not get a number and that is because they didn't put in the effort to be there early, etc. etc.
That rumor about bunch of numbers are set aside for Boyd Coddington, that is too funny. Boyd knows how to build his cars now and get street legal without the SB100 mambo jambo crap. Anyone can get a pre-66 block, rebuild it and put in all the goodies and all you need to have to pass smog is a PCV valve. There are ways around SB100 if one does not want to go that route. Did you know that if you used a crate 390 motor, according to BAR, your engine would fall under a "range of model years" for that particular engine..meaning, you as the owner can choose what year the smog ref should base his testing...so, if 390 was first used in 1960, then your engine would be tested according to 1960 standards.....you won't even need a PCV.
Well, January 2nd is getting close, I will be sure to let you know about my experience.

stevem · #19 (**permalink**) 12-12-2006, 06:35 PM

I don't remember anyone on this website who did not get a number. Get there early and be patient, it's not rocket science. No one should be scared from going through the process, especially because once it's over you can forget about smog forever.

ffrcobra_65 · #20 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006, 02:16 PM

Steve,

That is exactly my point...but you know..there are always those who root for the bad to happen.