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[Hray]

I almost hate to ask this question, I think I know the answer but must ask.

situation: Building a homade car, installing a 1965 motor and trans. in this case the regular spcns process is fine since the bar will rule smog not required on that year motor.

or if installing any motor newer than 1975 then the sb100 is nearly a must unless you want to make the car totally smog legal to the year of the motor and want to smog the car every two years.

I think all other steps involved are nearly the same except having to camp out at dmv on jan 2. You still have to get a vin number assigned, get BAR to sign off, and prove you are not building it with stolen parts.

I tried to keep it brief here, what am I missing. The above was explained to me by a dmv supervisor in december and she had the openness to say, "just do the regular spcns process, then after getting title and registration upgrade your motor to any year you want because we have no way of knowing it and we know most everyone does it this way".

I also think the sb100 number would give me the option to tell the BAR referee to apply smog standards to either the year appearance of the body, or the year of the motor. So do not plan on building a kit prowler unless you put in a pre-smog motor.

One reason for asking is I have access to molds for 29 ford roadsters and plan on building a few of them. I did get my sequence number for my cobra this year, but I almost feel guilty since I plan on installing a pre-smog motor that number could have went to someone that really needed one.
Does anyone here have info to correct my understanding or just tell me I am not being selfish

Hray.

[ksmiff]

I went the non sb100 route for my first attempt. Used a C3AE block which was declared by the smog ref to be out of a 1963 galaxy. All I had to do was make the car pass 1963 smog requirements. Sealed breather system and PCV. No problem. Then came the trouble. You still have to meet the smog sniffer for that year motor. Timing for that motor was to be set to 5 deg BTDC and idle set to 500 rpm. No way I could pass the sniffer. Hell, I could barely keep it running with the cam I am using at that low of an rpm. Jetted as far down as I could go and just could'nt get it. My last resort if I did not get the SB100 title was to change my cam back to the stock version to pass the sniffer. I would have to change the cam back every two years to pass smog. Luckily I got the Sb100.

Another thing I learned; If you are using a ford FE motor and are not going to go the SB100 route, use a C4AE or older block. The C5AE was used up till 1972 in pick-ups. A not so pleasant Smog Ref will know this and make you comply with 1972 smog specs. In other words tons of smog equipment. I was told they are supposed to go with the last year that motor was used in.

[Hray]

Msiff: I am suprised, your story was not relayed to me like that, of course why would I expect the dmv supervisor to know all of this. (I work for government and can say that). Guess I better write down the block number and get the BAR referree to tell me exactly what would be required for a specific engine prior to installing that engine.

But why would the lady tell me to change motors afterwords if they require a smog inspection every two years even if you did install a pre-75 motor. She seemed to indicate to me that once finished with bar and determined I had a pre-smog test required motor then I would not have to ever go back.

Thanks for your input. Hray