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09-19-2016, 05:52 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Near Chichester, Sussex by the sea......,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Crendon 427 S/C 428 FE+toploader
Posts: 668
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Same thing happens in the UK, only the usual question is...
'that a Real One or a Kit Car?' - KitCar it is, but when thats followed by a derogatory sniff, then its not quite the friendly conversation opener you might have hoped for.
Kit cars, in the UK, have a fairly bad reputation, as a grp body nailed onto a badly designed and built steel chassis, and worth very little. Given the money we put into these toys, it can feel a little hard to swallow it. Anyway, good thread, and really liked:
'"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor" tagline! ...... Noted for future use.
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09-19-2016, 07:51 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Allen,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Werk77 289FIA
Posts: 1,295
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz
Good thing you cleared that up Peter. When I saw the second pic I thought you knocked the old dude out for asking you if your car was a Factory Five. 
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Well, just FYI this is Peter Brock!
Here is the email next day...
subject: Best of show
Hello Peter…..I was really impressed with the Cobra you scratch-built. If I’d been judging the SCAT 25 show you would have won Best of Show! Really a very impressive piece of work. Keep up the great work!
All the Best, Peter Brock
Needless to say, whatever "the guy on the gas station says" -- is just warm air.....
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Scratch build 289 FIA see the Scratch builder forum on CC - sold
DRB GT40 MK1 red #49- sold
FF5 Mk4 #7733 302/T5/IRS - dark blue - sold
FF5 MK4 #7812 427/TKO/IRS - Guardsman Blue - sold
FF5 MK4 #8414 501/TKO600/48IDA Ollie the Dragon #91 - sold
FF5 Daytona Coupe 347/TKO/IRS Homage CSX2299 Viking Blue - sold
SPF 2063
Last edited by G-Pete; 09-19-2016 at 07:57 AM..
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09-19-2016, 08:22 AM
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Senile Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Buffalo, NY USA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance
Posts: 4,566
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A friend used to always answer the "Is it real?" question with, "No, it's a hologram"
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09-19-2016, 08:50 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Hillsboro,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Scratch built CSX style frame, Carbon fiber body, 393 Stroker, T-bird IRS, T5
Posts: 1,623
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Quote:
Originally Posted by G-Pete
Well, just FYI this is Peter Brock!
Here is the email next day...
subject: Best of show
Hello Peter…..I was really impressed with the Cobra you scratch-built. If I’d been judging the SCAT 25 show you would have won Best of Show! Really a very impressive piece of work. Keep up the great work!
All the Best, Peter Brock
Needless to say, whatever "the guy on the gas station says" -- is just warm air.....
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Very cool Pete, your car is a great example of a scratch build. Mine isn't any where near as original as yours...
Funny thing is, I was looking at your pictures and it reminded me of the couple times at car shows when I was in the same positions as Peter Brock, looking at original and continuation cars to see how things went together on those cars so I would know what to do on my own car later. Made some owners very nervous at times, I'm sure, but I was respectful of the cars and didn't touch them while sticking my fat head into the wheel wells, radiator openings, etc.... to see what i could...
I'm pretty sure the original comment from the gas station guy was his attempt to start up a conversation, but I was distracted at the moment and couldn't carry through with the conversation immediately. I did notice he waited around outside his vehicle for me to leave so he could hear it run, so I gave it a little extra for his benefit. (the smoking tires comment) Everyone in that neighborhood of used/new car lots and the gas station guys love to hear it from what they've told me. Even the girls at the bank love to see it pull up to the drive up window- which doesn't bother me too much.....
Bob
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09-19-2016, 10:56 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
Posts: 9,592
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark IV
A friend used to always answer the "Is it real?" question with, "No, it's a hologram"
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I've decided that since it has become mainstream to lie all the time, er, I mean "stretch the truth" for just about everything, from now on I will tell everyone that asks that my Cobra is real and it's worth a million dollars. WTF do I care what others think nowadays. 
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09-19-2016, 10:59 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,025
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
I've decided that since it has become mainstream to lie all the time, er, I mean "stretch the truth" for just about everything, from now on I will tell everyone that asks that my Cobra is real and it's worth a million dollars. WTF do I care what others think nowadays. 
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If you believe what you say, then it's not a lie. 
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09-19-2016, 11:24 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
If you believe what you say, then it's not a lie. 
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But the mainstream car experts will just twist the truth and tell me my car was built by Kirkham Motorsports in 2007 and point to the K badges on the car and the lack of Shelby badges and a glove box signature, and thus, it can't be an original. But, I'll continue the lie in the face of all the evidence that my car is an original Shelby Cobra. And I'm NEVER going to apologize either, though I might express some regret in the future if I hurt people here on Club Cobra.
My Cobra is an original Shelby Cobra and F all of you. It's 2016 and a Brave New World. 
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09-19-2016, 11:25 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
But the mainstream car experts will just twist the truth and tell me my car was built by Kirkham Motorsports in 2007 and point to the K badges on the car and the lack of Shelby badges and a glove box signature, and thus, it can't be an original. But, I'll continue the lie in the face of all the evidence that my car is an original Shelby Cobra. And I'm NEVER going to apologize either, though I might express some regret in the future if I hurt people here on Club Cobra.
My Cobra is an original Shelby Cobra and F all of you. It's 2016 and a Brave New World. 
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Have no fear. Those of us that support you will continue to believe in you, regardless of what others might say. 
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09-19-2016, 11:31 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Have no fear. Those of us that support you will continue to believe in you, regardless of what others might say. 
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I don't need the support of the so-called Cobra intellgensia/establishment, I'm counting on the doddering ignorant Cobra masses out there to believe my Cobra is an original Shelby Cobra and worth millions.
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09-19-2016, 11:32 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
I don't need the support of the so-called Cobra intellgensia/establishment, I'm counting on the doddering ignorant Cobra masses out there to believe my Cobra is an original Shelby Cobra and worth millions.
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You should not differentiate between devotional belief and belief based on stupidity. Believing is believing.
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09-19-2016, 11:56 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
You should not differentiate between devotional belief and belief based on stupidity. Believing is believing.
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To quote an "ancient" philosopher, "Stupid is as stupid does." I agree. They're all stupid. If the devotional believers believe my Kirkham is an original Shelby Cobra, then they're stupid too.
As you said, 1/2 of everyone (purposely leaving out the "you know" because I now misquote everyone) is below average.
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09-19-2016, 12:00 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Perhaps you should, instead, concentrate your thoughts on whether or not you have timely flushed your brake and clutch fluid. And, for that matter, your coolant. Yes, I know it rarely goes below freezing in your neck of the woods, but the additives in your coolant still have a limited lifespan. That would be much more productive than dwelling on the beliefs of the mentally challenged.
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09-19-2016, 12:05 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Perhaps you should, instead, concentrate your thoughts on whether or not you have timely flushed your brake and clutch fluid. And, for that matter, your coolant. Yes, I know it rarely goes below freezing in your neck of the woods, but the additives in your coolant still have a limited lifespan. That would be much more productive than dwelling on the beliefs of the mentally challenged.
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I LOVE the mentally challenged and/or poorly educated. I'm counting on them to be believers. 
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09-19-2016, 12:50 PM
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Location: Buffalo, NY USA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
I LOVE the mentally challenged and/or poorly educated. I'm counting on them to be believers. 
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So are the presidential candidates!
C) None of the above
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09-19-2016, 12:52 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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I bet that beautiful KMS of RodKnock's still has the original brake fluid in it that came from day one. 
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09-19-2016, 12:57 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: White City,
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Cobra Make, Engine: West Coast, 460 CID
Posts: 2,916
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Quote:
Originally Posted by era cobra
Don't feel insulted. They just do not know. Most of the young people today are into the import cars.
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At the last show and shine I attended I was between a Dodge Stealth and a Subaru BRZ - both nice but not significantly modified. I had people who walked past the Cobra as if it was invisible and others who made a beeline to the Cobra as if the Stealth and BRZ were invisible.
Different strokes for different folks.
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09-19-2016, 02:54 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
I bet that beautiful KMS of RodKnock's still has the original brake fluid in it that came from day one. 
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Nice "redirect" counselor.
You would be wrong. But I had PANAVIA (Steve Wood) go through the car about 2-3 years ago, IIRC.
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09-19-2016, 03:18 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Carlsbad,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2932 with 438 Lykins Motorsports engine. Previous owner of FFR 5452.
Posts: 2,616
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
I've decided that since it has become mainstream to lie all the time, er, I mean "stretch the truth" for just about everything, from now on I will tell everyone that asks that my Cobra is real and it's worth a million dollars. WTF do I care what others think nowadays. 
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Real1 is resurrected!
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Jim
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09-19-2016, 04:15 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Bedford,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: SPO 963, 351W
Posts: 200
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Tell them that it's a Factory 6 kit....leave them scratching their heads...
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09-19-2016, 04:26 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Farmington,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 781, 69' 428CJ, PPG BLACK. ERA 3005 Arctic White 331 SBF
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When asked if it's real, I usually respond, no, it's just a pygmy of your imagination. Sense of humor usually leads to a good conversation. Stupidity leads to stares or the classic, i told you so.
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