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Old 02-22-2010, 08:08 PM
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Bob it depends on glass or alum. There r a few alum cars that can be bought at a very good deal.

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Maybe its me but I refuse to call $120K for a Alum roller a good deal when you can be into a kirkham for $100K COMPLETE. They were a good deal in 2008 when I could of had one for $75K. I haven't seem one complete for under $140K and no rollers for under $120K
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They are around, just need to look. Would never spend $100k on a kmp but that us me.
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Would never spend $100k on a kmp but that us me.
Wait...wait...wait...OK...it passed. Phew! I thought I almost had a seizure.
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Allan, You wouldnt spend $100K on the KMP but you would spend $140K for CSX - when the cars are the same? I thought I was crazy
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Thanks to all for responses.

Some quick thoughts from this end.

Somebody, some place, has to be carrying the loans on dealer inventory. Given the number of unsold units in circulation (rollers & otherwise), it strikes me that at least some of these dealers must be approaching a tipping point between solvency/insolvency (this sounds worse than intended and I wish no harm to anyone, but business is business). The closer a dealer gets to this point, the worse he needs to clear inventory.

In regards to competition for the same dollars, looked at a 2004 Ferrari 360 Modena today with less than 9,000 miles, accident free, that could be had for around $87,500 out the door (this market is also feeling the impact of current economic conditions). Saw a 2005 Spider, slightly more mileage, for about $10k more. Point I am trying to make is that while I would prefer a Cobra, dollar for dollar, it is a recreation (meaning not a CSX 2000 or 3000 chassis designation) and not so sure it is equal to a Ferrari 360 (another toy that I have desired for some time). Maybe comes down to a value decision...I really like Cobras but not at the same price point as a Ferrari (that is an original).

Reality though is that none of the above is really important given the plight of many in my state and I could just as easily do nothing. Net-net is that all of this plays against a dealer getting $55k+ for a replica (see definition above).

Apologies for rambling through this...
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Thanks to all for responses.

Some quick thoughts from this end.

Somebody, some place, has to be carrying the loans on dealer inventory. Given the number of unsold units in circulation (rollers & otherwise), it strikes me that at least some of these dealers must be approaching a tipping point between solvency/insolvency (this sounds worse than intended and I wish no harm to anyone, but business is business). The closer a dealer gets to this point, the worse he needs to clear inventory.

In regards to competition for the same dollars, looked at a 2004 Ferrari 360 Modena today with less than 9,000 miles, accident free, that could be had for around $87,500 out the door (this market is also feeling the impact of current economic conditions). Saw a 2005 Spider, slightly more mileage, for about $10k more. Point I am trying to make is that while I would prefer a Cobra, dollar for dollar, it is a recreation (meaning not a CSX 2000 or 3000 chassis designation) and not so sure it is equal to a Ferrari 360 (another toy that I have desired for some time). Maybe comes down to a value decision...I really like Cobras but not at the same price point as a Ferrari (that is an original).

Reality though is that none of the above is really important given the plight of many in my state and I could just as easily do nothing. Net-net is that all of this plays against a dealer getting $55k+ for a replica (see definition above).

Apologies for rambling through this...
Interesting thoughts. Just remember: The more exotic the car, the more exotic the problems, the more exotic the expenses.
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They are around, just need to look. Would never spend $100k on a kmp but that us me.
This is what you said Allan. Or have you forgotten?

I jump on all threads. When someone wants to smear a KMP (or any brand), which you seem to do often, then YES, I'll get involved. I'm not prejudiced against any brand. I like them all. Thank you.
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