CSX3016 for sale through Exotic Classics, Syosset NY

[computerworks]

...at this point I don't care...The guy who has the real CSX3016 picture, journalist, come into the light or shut the F UP.

Thor... a little harsh contribution.

This forum is for discussion of many topics... some serious, some technical, some frivolous, some just goofy.

No need to call anyone out on their posts or opinions.

Thanks
ron
ClubCobra Moderator.

[Nedsel]

But I can see how someone with a Chevy under the hood of his Contemporary might find the discussion about an almost 50-year old relic tiresome.

[CSX3183]

He sounds like a foreneer to me, sumpthin we don't cotton to down here, perhaps his actions could be termed,,, UNAMERICAN, I mean at least it's biasphemy

[rodneym]

We all hear your frustration, Thor, but we're not talking about a fake Rolex.

The preservation, history and authenticity of a 60's Shelbys must be taken very seriously. There's simply too much at stake.

If I was buying/selling a $1M piece of art, I'd want to make absolutely sure I wasn't buying a fake or misrepresenting what I was selling.

[Thor maine]

To the Moderator I do apologize for the implied F-Bomb. To the rest of the responders I say you can't see the forest for the trees in your small little world. If the "3016" that sold is a fake repo, then it is the "Fake Rolex" and the guy with the real one should come to the light of day and prove it. Because if "the guy" does not then all cars will come into question, and the value of all cars comes into question and will fall. If "3016" has a claim then we can stop with the " I now a guy, I heard of a guy, I now of a guy who now's a guy who heard a story from Harvey the guy next to the whole in the fence about CSX3016 was in the Northeast Under ground, barn find hidden from the world...... If the East coast Under ground 3016 is real come into the light, a few experts, some journalist, some pictures and stop being BIGFOOT! And for almost 35 years I have been the owner of my HotRod shaped like a Cobra how many of you can say that?

[Nedsel]

[quote=Thor maine;1288915] Because if "the guy" does not then all cars will come into question, and the value of all cars comes into question and will fall.

I think it is clear there are some erroneous assumptions here, and the process of trying to see the forest for the trees has been subverted.

[DMXF]

Originally Posted by Nedsel

I think it is clear there are some erroneous assumptions here...

and naivety with regard to the complications of going directly head-on up against multiple owners of the auction car with very deep pockets...

[Thor maine]

Feel the Power of the Dark Side, long live the Bow Tie in my HotRod shaped like a Cobra.

[Nedsel]

Oh, c'mon and jump in the ring. You can take it.

[mickmate]

Something about living in a glasshouses and throwing stones............

[LMH]

I see 3016 is for sale on eBay: Shelby 2 Door | eBay

Larry

[Nedsel]

The feedback rating of the seller (85.7 %) is less than outstanding.

[DMXF]

but it does seem doubtful he would be willing to add to the description the lack of traceability to the real 3016 and that the real car had been found. The potential for real excitement is some day when the owner of what is left of the original car along with the ownership rights sells it to someone who is really adamant and about defending his property.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by DMXF

but it does seem doubtful he would be willing to add to the description the lack of traceability to the real 3016 and that the real car had been found. The potential for real excitement is some day when the owner of what is left of the original car along with the ownership rights sells it to someone who is really adamant and about defending his property.

Sellers comments to my inquiry:

"We know their is controversy around this car stemming from the fact that it was badly damaged. And if it had better provenance the value would be greater that where we have it priced. My principal has reports from a number of authorities about the right to identify this car as 3016, and serious prospects are invited to review the car and supporting documents in order to form their own opinion.

Respectfully,
Craig Balaban
518-885-9356"

Sure, ok,

Bill S.

[Nedsel]

[quote=mrmustang;1308871]Sellers comments to my inquiry:

My principal has reports from a number of authorities about the right to identify this car as 3016, and serious prospects are invited to review the car and supporting documents in order to form their own opinion.

Respectfully,
Craig Balaban
518-885-9356[/font][/i][/color]"

I note that he avoids discussing what those "authorities" concluded regarding this car's right to claim the 3016 VIN. Which is understandable.

[stephen_becker]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Sellers comments to my inquiry:

"We know their is controversy around this car stemming from the fact that it was badly damaged. And if it had better provenance the value would be greater that where we have it priced. My principal has reports from a number of authorities about the right to identify this car as 3016, and serious prospects are invited to review the car and supporting documents in order to form their own opinion.

Respectfully,
Craig Balaban
518-885-9356"

Sure, ok,

Bill S.

Go ahead Bill ask him who is authorities are and see what he says.........

[mickmate]

Their feedback is a lot clearer than his descriptions from the looks.

[mickmate]

I see the typical "this many were produced" "Carroll Shelby himself" "this magazine test recorded"..........I get so used to seeing the same quoted exerts used so many times. It seems that seeing a whole line and a half of generic description on any specific one of these cars in an advert is laughably quite a lot.

[LMH]

If the real 3016 has provable documentation, why hasn't all this been worked out? The longer time goes by, the more validity the one being advertised as 3016 has.
Larry

[Thor maine]

So do I have this right? So this comes down to a guy with a finished beautiful car that is For Sale , but maybe ( and lets say it again"Maybe") some questions or blanks in its history. With another guy who "maybe" has a twisted pile of scrap tubing in a barn somewhere that no one has seen or has pictures of , but is claimed to be the genuine CSX3016. Am I missing something?