CSX-4000 HST cars-

[damdfw]

Originally Posted by patrickt

What possible reason could they have for saying "No, we don't want a manual written for these cars." ??? Why would they send somebody to meet with you that didn't have the authority to green light something so obvious?

I suspect the reason they may not want a manual written is that it would provide competition to the Shelby dealer network. Up to this point the dealers have somewhat of a lock on finishing these cars. When I first got my roller, I talked to one of the dealers about some guidance on finishing the car/sourcing parts. I was told he would sell me a manual for $12,000 because that is what he charged to finish a car.

I found other resources and really enjoyed finishing the car myself.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by damdfw

When I first got my roller, I talked to one of the dealers about some guidance on finishing the car/sourcing parts. I was told he would sell me a manual for $12,000 because that is what he charged to finish a car.

Dang, I should of thought of that since it makes perfect sense out of a seemingly simple, obvious issue, that for some unknown and mysterious reason, just never gets resolved.

OK, here's a prediction: Panavia writes back after a couple of weeks "the SAI people are reviewing it, and it looks promising." A few weeks later, "I still haven't heard, let me check back with them." A month or two after that, "Well I havent' updated this thread in a while, but the situation is more complicated than it originally appeared." That will be the last posting on the thread.

Bottom line: You will never have access to a quality manual, at a reasonable price, in your lifetime.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Dang, I should of thought of that since it makes perfect sense out of a seemingly simple, obvious issue, that for some unknown and mysterious reason, just never gets resolved.

OK, here's a prediction: Panavia writes back after a couple of weeks "the SAI people are reviewing it, and it looks promising." A few weeks later, "I still haven't heard, let me check back with them." A month or two after that, "Well I havent' updated this thread in a while, but the situation is more complicated than it originally appeared." That will be the last posting on the thread.

Bottom line: You will never have access to a quality manual, at a reasonable price, in your lifetime.

Always the pragmatist. Cheer up, it's Saturday!

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Always the pragmatist. Cheer up, it's Saturday!

There's enough trickery and screwing in our hobby as is. It's an absolute outrage that a manual apparently exists and CSX owners can't get it. But that goes back to what I have said before, and that is most CSX owners don't work on their cars -- if CSX owners were like ERA owners they would storm the Bastille and take the goddamm manual.

[damdfw]

Originally Posted by patrickt

There's enough trickery and screwing in our hobby as is. It's an absolute outrage that a manual apparently exists and CSX owners can't get it. But that goes back to what I have said before, and that is most CSX owners don't work on their cars -- if CSX owners were like ERA owners they would storm the Bastille and take the goddamm manual.

I don't think that a manual exists. That particular dealer meant that he would sell me his knowledge and assistance. Whenever I talk to people interested in my car I defiantly do not point them to that dealer. I know of one person who was interested in purchasing an aluminum CSX and I pointed him specifically away from that dealer. There are some very helpful dealers and people at SAI, etc. I will always recommend them.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by damdfw

I don't think that a manual exists. That particular dealer meant that he would sell me his knowledge and assistance. Whenever I talk to people interested in my car I defiantly do not point them to that dealer.

OK, my apologies for jumping to a conclusion -- I've seen more than a few screwings in this hobby so perhaps I've become a bit jaded. Be that as it may, if there is indeed no CSX manual, nor a set of organized "assembly instructions," nor even a codified set of specs, then it's simply a pi$$-poor way to run a business and a basic screwing of your customer base. Now on the other hand, if any of those items do exist, then it's a royal, super-screwing of your customers. Personally, I would bet all of that stuff is out there. There used to be SAI reps on here -- you would think you could at least get an honest answer to a simple question.