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Old 04-17-2010, 03:28 PM
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Default Install eng. chain hoist in garage ceiling ?

What would be the best way to install a chain hoist in the ceiling of my garage ?

What kind & size of pipe would hold say,..... a 700 lb. FE ?
And some type of bracket to go over the pipe & lag screw into the joists ?

Most hoists have a large hook that's intended to hang on a large pipe. Something that works great and is not an eye sore.

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Kevin,
I used to just lay a quality 4x4 thru the rafters and wrap a good chain around it with a loop hanging down. Attach the chain hoist to that. You might also want to brace the rafters from the floor area, on either side of the vehicle, with some 4x4s so it does not pull your roof down on top of you.

Oh Yea, Don't forget to toenail the 4x4 bracing to the rafters so they do not fall over.
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Old 04-17-2010, 04:44 PM
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I did think of using a 4x4 or 6x6, and wrapping the chain around that. I would imagine if I spanned the load across the joists maybe 10'-12', and anchor the wood beam, that I may not need more support from below ?

I do have four weight jack's in the basement from when we had a 200 gal. reef tank in the living room. Can you say,...... WEIGHT ! lol
They worked great.
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I used an 8 ft 4x4. Of course I never lifted an FE that way so you might need the extra support of the weight jacks.
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Old 04-17-2010, 05:56 PM
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With the inexpensive engine hoists out there why would anyone want to use a chain hoist???????
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Old 04-17-2010, 06:41 PM
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Beg, Barrow, steal , rent or buy an engine hoist, easier and much safer. You can move the motor around on the hoist, and not the car.
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Old 04-17-2010, 07:24 PM
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Unless you're a structural engineer and calculate the size and type of timber required for the span and weight you're working with, don't do it. One of three things will happen: you'll get lucky; you'll get killed; or, you'll damage your engine.

Get a cherry picker. It will also allow you to move the engine around as needed as you put it into place.

I also used an engine leveler, which made the weight shift a lot easier. In fact, get an air rachet to use with the engine leveler, which is much easier than a manual rachet.

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Default chain fall IS better...done it both ways...!

Undy et, al.

A chain fall will raise/lower the engine more or less up/down in a STRAIGHT LINE.

A "shop crane", aka "cherry picker"...what you are lifting will move up/down and ALSO in a ARC. It will tend to get the engine "swinging" a bit.

To use the cherry picker best find the C/G "center or gravity" of your engine/chain harness attachment. That will minimize swinging as you go up/down. A floor jack or dolly wheels under the front of the car helps move the front of the car exactly where you need it.

If you HAVE to use the shop crane/cherry picker try to do it on smooth cement, not rough asphalt.

Did the engine in my 289 Cobra with the cherry picker. Never again.

Used a CHAIN HOIST on my friends ERA 427. Much safer/easier.

Engine/bellhousing went pretty much STRAIGHT UP/DOWN...very little swinging and easy to control. Helped to be on smooth cement, as we used the floor jack to reposition the front of the car. Cake walk.

I will NOT use a cherry picker again for the engine/bellhousing on my 289 FIA Cobra. Three experienced gearheads...went well...but was a real pain.

If you have the option, rig a chain hoist for engines.

Regardless of method...LOTS of cardboard/padding/duct tape to protect the body. Pizza, and cokes help...beer is later. Either way, get help...work carefully...then drink heavily.

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rent a hoist, unless you have a backhoe, sitting around.
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Kevin, if you need a engine hoist give me a call and you can use mine, now that i have the kids Galaxie back on the road mine is just collecting dust again....
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With a chain hoist you can control the lowering rate more carefully especially as was mentioned to get an inexpensive engine hoist, controlling the rate of decent can be marginal. But then what do you do with the extra chain that hangs down? Now, as my garage has a sheetrocked roof I use a engine hoist with a engine leveler.
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With an "cherry picker" I pulled/reinstalled my 482, bellhousing and tranny myself in my Cobra, no problem. I wouldn't have been able to do it with a chain hoist. Short of rough tarmac or a dirt floor (maybe a Nebraska thing 'cept rusty... ))there is nothing good about using a chain hoist. I've jerked plenty of engines with both and I'll never use a chain hoist again. It's soooo 1950s.
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I thought about a chain hoist in my garage as well, decided to stick with a cherry picker. I installed my side oiler WITH the trans bolted to it with a picker, worked out rather well.
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Depending on your floor set up, both can and will work well. My friend who owns a garage and changes engines almost daily for people has both and he uses the engine lift or cherry picker more than the hoist. His e stalls aren't real wide and he doesn't have much room to move a big pick up to one side or the other if it isn't lined up just right, so the cherry picker works better. And of course he has a smooth concrete floor and the hoist has a very heavy duty set of beams across the ceiling and I have seen him lift big diesel engines with it and no problem.

But like what was stated earlier in a post, cover everything from the windshield forward just in case. He has a big commercial padded blanket type thing that even covers the windshields in the cars and pickups. But this stuff is expensive and would not be practical for the normal home owner to buy.

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