FMS 427 Sroked Small Block Thoughts

[blykins]

It is a passion for me....I really enjoy it.

I hope you weren't being sarcastic when you were talking about the value added money with the clearance/spec sheets, etc.

It really does mean a lot since most mass rebuilders don't take time to actually measure bearing clearances with mics/bore mics, mix/match bearings if they have to, double check all the machinist's work, etc. You also have to realize that a lot of the times they don't advertise EXACTLY what parts are going into the engine, just so they can shop different manufacturers and get the best deal at the time.

My engines also come with RAM flywheels, good harmonic balancers, internally balanced, etc, etc. ARP fasteners are used everywhere internally, down to the cam thrust plate bolts, oil pump bolts, etc. You won't get that from Ford.

[madmaxx]

Hell no I was NOT BEING SARCASTIC!!!!!!!!! Until you try to figure out someone elses stuff you dont appreciate the information you provided. I have a hard enough time replacing a slave cylinder no less engine gaskets and components when needed.

In the end I dont see the value with the FMS427, The response I experience when dealing with Ford and GM concerning a problem is usually "it is characteristic" whenever you approach them with an issue why would it be any different on a crate engine. You are not even getting a complete engine, convienant way to leave wiggle room when an issue does arise. The blame game starts. I would only go 100% turnkey from one supplier.

Originally Posted by blykins

It is a passion for me....I really enjoy it.

I hope you weren't being sarcastic when you were talking about the value added money with the clearance/spec sheets, etc.

It really does mean a lot since most mass rebuilders don't take time to actually measure bearing clearances with mics/bore mics, mix/match bearings if they have to, double check all the machinist's work, etc. You also have to realize that a lot of the times they don't advertise EXACTLY what parts are going into the engine, just so they can shop different manufacturers and get the best deal at the time.

My engines also come with RAM flywheels, good harmonic balancers, internally balanced, etc, etc. ARP fasteners are used everywhere internally, down to the cam thrust plate bolts, oil pump bolts, etc. You won't get that from Ford.

[blykins]

I appreciate your thoughts and insight.

Unfortunately some customers only look at the $$$ figures and don't see the value added items.

Needless to say, I think one of my "value added items" is that I always answer my cell phone....even on the weekends.

I would imagine that FRPP offers a complete engine minus because it leaves more room to wiggle out of liability. If 500 miles down the road the Printoseal intake gasket that the customer installed blows the silicone and lets antifreeze go everywhere in your pretty new engine, then FRPP is going to say, "Tough luck, you installed the intake."

You really have to watch about engine builder warranties as well. They won't pay out for any old thing because it's usually a gray area when something fails. For instance, don't expect an engine builder to warranty an engine when the customer breaks in a fresh one with a flat tappet cam and now for some reason the valve lash keeps increasing....