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11-04-2011, 02:27 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by rodneym
FUNFER2 - are you sure about the details?
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This whole thread is pointless. Unbelievable.
A waste of internet space. Even worse than my irrelevant posts. 
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11-04-2011, 03:24 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
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It was on ebay and did not sell. Below is the information.
1965 Replica/Kit Makes Shelby Cobra Superformance
"Thank you for visiting another one of Shift Bespoke Automotive's exclusive listings!"
"This Cobra is a Superformance rolling chassis ($42k) Roush drive train (43k). With only 2500 miles and over 85k invested in this car."
Replica/Kit Makes - eBay (item 140628193446 end time Nov-04-11 13:50:27 PDT)
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11-04-2011, 03:39 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 427 S/C, Twin Paxton 511 FE
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It's just a Pie In The Sky starting point on an SPF. Not TERRIBLY overpriced. Just overpriced (in this market, IMO). There's the engine cost, the install, the shipping cost on the decals that they want to recoup....
The car shouldn't have more than 75k invested, not 85k!?!?!?
Folks who want back 'what they have in' need to take off their rose colored glasses. They didn't look so good on Paul Williams, either. 
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11-04-2011, 04:01 PM
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I agree, like I first posted for that kind of money, you could have one hell of a motor other than paying for "Roush" name. Id' rather have 600-800 HP side oiler with stacked injection or the blown Shelby FE from George or Keith.

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11-04-2011, 03:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
It was on ebay and did not sell. Below is the information.
"This Cobra is a Superformance rolling chassis ($42k) Roush drive train (43k). With only 2500 miles and over 85k invested in this car."
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Well, if the ad on eBay says it's true, then it must be true.
Of course, you can have $80K in an SPF. Tin-Man has $125,000 in his. But the fact of the matter is that Roush doesn't sell the 402IR's for $40,000+, which is the title of this erroneous thread.
However, I do believe they sell a polished 511 FE with injection that is about $40K +/-.
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11-04-2011, 09:25 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2984 MK111, Roush 511 IR FE 8 Stack, Dynoed: [flywheel] 572HP at 6000 , 556# Torque at 4700, Bowler 4R70W Auto Transmision. Tires: Mickey T's S/R 26.0x10.0x15.0 F ,26.0x12.0x15.0 R Color, Bleck, because they told me it was Bleck, at the factory.
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Let me set the record straight......one persons experience.
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
Well, if the ad on eBay says it's true, then it must be true.
Of course, you can have $80K in an SPF. Tin-Man has $125,000 in his. But the fact of the matter is that Roush doesn't sell the 402IR's for $40,000+, which is the title of this erroneous thread.
However, I do believe they sell a polished 511 FE with injection that is about $40K +/-.
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Here you go....................
You can get a Roush 511IRFE Shelby Aluminium block polished engine package with front sump oil pan for US$40,725, add to this ,black powder coated Shelby Valve covers, True Trac power steering accessories with black anodized pulleys, clear coated aluminium block, black anodized Clay Cook domed air cleaners with polished rings, black intake manifold, and a Bowler 4R70W Automatic transmission plus delivery to California and you are spending US$53,500.
The Superformance roller base price is US$42,900, add to this race style roller bar, silver ceramic coated side pipes and headers, 427FE polished stainless steel header kit, leather coated Moto Lite steering wheel, polished aluminium halon fire extinguisher with billet head and bracket, special tripod headlight assembly, pedal extension, full polished rims, stainless steel radiator guard, Mickey Thompson tires installed and balanced, shoulder harness, custom car cover, dealer prep and shipping costs, and you are at US$ 50,500.
Installation, including some fibreglass work, painting, special fog lamps and brackets, power steering steering kit, power brake kit, vacuum pump, chrome fan covers, side view mirrors, sway bar kit, Lokar shifter knob,installation of motor and transmission labor, steel braided lines, motor installation kit, transmission installation upgrades, 427 badges, Lokar transmission linkage, ceramic coated heat shields and installation, special foot pedals fabrication and installation, electrical wiring installation for fog lamps, plus an assortment of fluids, and we are stroking US$18,000
Grand total comes up to US$ 122, 000, plus tax and licence in Arizona.
These prices listed are two years old.
So there you have it.
OK so why did I go this way, first its a realization of a dream and is a retirement gift to myself, second, while I would dearly love to build one from scratch at this time in my life but I do not want to spend my time in the sun building a car and I absolutely know I would not have the patience. It would have also been totally impractical for me to have engaged in a build process at the same time as working in Asia.
So why didn't I buy one completed from the Club Cobra for sale site, well, it would have been somebody else's inspiration and would not have my personal stamp on it plus it would have cost a mint to travel back and forth to the USA and China until I had selected the correct one, thus the purchase of a roller, accessories, selection of an engine and the extras to make it just the way I wanted it and the install to make it a "turn key" drive away..
Would I make the same selection if I had to do it all over again, probably, but there would be a very strong pull to go with a Kirkham roller with a Keithcraft SOHC Cammer. In all fairness however, I have yet to really experience the Cobra that I selected.
I can hear some folks that say I am nuts spending this type of gelt for a Cobra and the Roush engine, but what I have listed above is general public knowledge and is available on each of the websites for the products and items listed. Arguably I have selected high end products but I make no apologies since this is my personal preference and I can live with that.
Hope this sharing helps any newbie looking for some pricing advice or anyone who is putting their shopping list together and is looking towards purchasing these products.
If anyone has some specific questions about the options I selected send me a pm.
Cheers, John, AKA, tin-man

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11-04-2011, 09:55 PM
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What a magnificent Cobra, including the engine !
As you said,....
"first its a realization of a dream and is a retirement gift to myself"
"I make no apologies since this is my personal preference and I can live with that".
There's no need to apologize to anyone. That's what cars are all about, buy or build what makes you happy !
What you have is remarkable, no matter how much a guy spends, low or high, on HIS,.... dream ! 
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11-04-2011, 10:05 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2984 MK111, Roush 511 IR FE 8 Stack, Dynoed: [flywheel] 572HP at 6000 , 556# Torque at 4700, Bowler 4R70W Auto Transmision. Tires: Mickey T's S/R 26.0x10.0x15.0 F ,26.0x12.0x15.0 R Color, Bleck, because they told me it was Bleck, at the factory.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
What a magnificent Cobra, including the engine !
As you said,....
"first its a realization of a dream and is a retirement gift to myself"
"I make no apologies since this is my personal preference and I can live with that".
There's no need to apologize to anyone. That's what cars are all about, buy or build what makes you happy !
What you have is remarkable, no matter how much a guy spends, low or high, on HIS,.... dream ! 
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Kevin, thanks for the kind words, hopefully I'll be driving it next month on the 12th, I'll post of my experiences. Cheers, John AKA, tin-man
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11-04-2011, 10:09 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tin-man
Kevin, thanks for the kind words, hopefully I'll be driving it next month on the 12th, I'll post of my experiences. Cheers, John AKA, tin-man
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Have we ever seen pictures before? That is wicked!!! It has to sound like a freight train.
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11-05-2011, 04:19 PM
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Location: Loudon,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance#2352/Aluminum SO/490 c.i. 650 h.p. 605 tq.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tin-man
Here you go....................
You can get a Roush 511IRFE Shelby Aluminium block polished engine package with front sump oil pan for US$40,725, add to this ,black powder coated Shelby Valve covers, True Trac power steering accessories with black anodized pulleys, clear coated aluminium block, black anodized Clay Cook domed air cleaners with polished rings, black intake manifold, and a Bowler 4R70W Automatic transmission plus delivery to California and you are spending US$53,500.
The Superformance roller base price is US$42,900, add to this race style roller bar, silver ceramic coated side pipes and headers, 427FE polished stainless steel header kit, leather coated Moto Lite steering wheel, polished aluminium halon fire extinguisher with billet head and bracket, special tripod headlight assembly, pedal extension, full polished rims, stainless steel radiator guard, Mickey Thompson tires installed and balanced, shoulder harness, custom car cover, dealer prep and shipping costs, and you are at US$ 50,500.
Installation, including some fibreglass work, painting, special fog lamps and brackets, power steering steering kit, power brake kit, vacuum pump, chrome fan covers, side view mirrors, sway bar kit, Lokar shifter knob,installation of motor and transmission labor, steel braided lines, motor installation kit, transmission installation upgrades, 427 badges, Lokar transmission linkage, ceramic coated heat shields and installation, special foot pedals fabrication and installation, electrical wiring installation for fog lamps, plus an assortment of fluids, and we are stroking US$18,000
Grand total comes up to US$ 122, 000, plus tax and licence in Arizona.
These prices listed are two years old.
So there you have it.
OK so why did I go this way, first its a realization of a dream and is a retirement gift to myself, second, while I would dearly love to build one from scratch at this time in my life but I do not want to spend my time in the sun building a car and I absolutely know I would not have the patience. It would have also been totally impractical for me to have engaged in a build process at the same time as working in Asia.
So why didn't I buy one completed from the Club Cobra for sale site, well, it would have been somebody else's inspiration and would not have my personal stamp on it plus it would have cost a mint to travel back and forth to the USA and China until I had selected the correct one, thus the purchase of a roller, accessories, selection of an engine and the extras to make it just the way I wanted it and the install to make it a "turn key" drive away..
Would I make the same selection if I had to do it all over again, probably, but there would be a very strong pull to go with a Kirkham roller with a Keithcraft SOHC Cammer. In all fairness however, I have yet to really experience the Cobra that I selected.
I can hear some folks that say I am nuts spending this type of gelt for a Cobra and the Roush engine, but what I have listed above is general public knowledge and is available on each of the websites for the products and items listed. Arguably I have selected high end products but I make no apologies since this is my personal preference and I can live with that.
Hope this sharing helps any newbie looking for some pricing advice or anyone who is putting their shopping list together and is looking towards purchasing these products.
If anyone has some specific questions about the options I selected send me a pm.
Cheers, John, AKA, tin-man

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Your money, u earned it, u got the right to spend it the way you see fit without justification. If common sense were to be applied to any of us, we would not be dropping the cash for hot rods. So I say go for what you want, you onle get one shot at the deal!!!!!!!! Enjoy
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11-05-2011, 07:11 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2984 MK111, Roush 511 IR FE 8 Stack, Dynoed: [flywheel] 572HP at 6000 , 556# Torque at 4700, Bowler 4R70W Auto Transmision. Tires: Mickey T's S/R 26.0x10.0x15.0 F ,26.0x12.0x15.0 R Color, Bleck, because they told me it was Bleck, at the factory.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Varmit
Your money, u earned it, u got the right to spend it the way you see fit without justification. If common sense were to be applied to any of us, we would not be dropping the cash for hot rods. So I say go for what you want, you onle get one shot at the deal!!!!!!!! Enjoy
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Amen, and considering I didn't tell my wife until she asked what the roller and engine deposits were for in the checkbook to Hillbank and Roush, there is no way on earth that I would ever be able to pull that one off again and live to talk about it.   
Cheers, John, AKA, tin-man
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11-05-2011, 09:42 PM
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Armor All?
Shiny TIRES?!?!?!?!
Oy, vey.
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11-11-2011, 12:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
This whole thread is pointless. Unbelievable.
A waste of internet space. Even worse than my irrelevant posts. 
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Cashburn, quoting my own post from page 1, post #14. I agree.
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11-11-2011, 12:47 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Cashburn, quoting my own post from page 1, post #14. I agree.
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Uhhh, I'd like to know why ERAChas is so mean to Cashburn? 
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