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Old 01-04-2015, 12:29 PM
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I will ask FFR tomorrow. The other wheelbase information I can take from my scan. As I know 90" is the original one.
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MRMUSTANG.....you again...starting again.
Who the heck was telling that?: "who is this Tony (can't be that Tony mentioned above at FFR as he has nothing to do with the sales side of life for your association with FFR)"

Tony is a super nice guy, who works for FFR and is my direct contact. Other member answered this question also to you...so whats your problem???

Please go away with your problem as I promised not getting angry here. As I mentioned ...you are not welcome in this project
All I did was ask a simple question, you are the one who is acting poorly. Tony at FFR is not in the division of being in sales, so does not have the authorization to make any deals with you in that regard. This is why I wanted clarification as to who Tony is. If you are unwilling to be civil and answer the simple questions, then why are you here?

So, let's try this again, who is Tony? (we already know which Tony it is not)

It's a simple question, all it required in the first place was a simple, and civil answer.

Also, if you want to continue and seek advice from the brain trust here, then you really should take the advice I offered earlier on today. Take a step back, a deep breath, and think before you respond.


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Old 01-04-2015, 12:34 PM
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All I did was ask a simple question, you are the one who is acting poorly. Tony at FFR is not in the division of being in sales, so does not have the authorization to make any deals with you in that regard.
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Your question have being answered a lot of times and AGAIN..YOU R NOT WELCOME HERE
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Okay, so now we may be making some headway. Your english is difficult to understand at times so I'll ask for clarification?
You will be offering -
1- Kits to retrofit your aluminum body to MarkIII and Mark IV Factory Five kits
2- Rollers with a Factory Five chassis with your aluminum body attached
3- Full turn key Mark IV turn key cars with your body attached and finished.

A few questions to flesh out this discussion-
Will paint in the customers' choice of color be offered?
Will previous customers of FF5 be able to bring their chassis to your shop to retrofit a body to their chassis?

I will defer other questions as it is early in this endeavor and I'm not sure it would be appropriate or timely to ask beyond these items until you have had a chance to explore the necessary work to adapt your body to the FF5 chassis.

Count me as slightly skeptical but hopefully you will prove me wrong. And don't write off Bill (MrMustang) just yet. If you can answer the questions of a skeptic like Bill and learn how to deal with others with tough questions, you may actually have a chance to make a go of this business plan. Just because you can do a thing well doesn't mean you can sell your work. A good sales person would do you a world of good- one who speaks and understands english well as it seems this is where you wish to expand your business.

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A question here:

Is there a way to kick this mrmustang thing out here? Because he is starting again pi...ng me off and I promised to be not ofensive. A letter from my company attorney was already send to him and he will get it soon for false accusation proofed by himself. False nosy girl guys like him were reasons to start wars as history proofs. I made mistakes and I assume them but this guys is trying for not loosing his face after all the crap he told.
Just tell me if I am wrong.
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Okay, so now we may be making some headway. Your english is difficult to understand at times so I'll ask for clarification?
You will be offering -
1- Kits to retrofit your aluminum body to MarkIII and Mark IV Factory Five kits
2- Rollers with a Factory Five chassis with your aluminum body attached
3- Full turn key Mark IV turn key cars with your body attached and finished.

A few questions to flesh out this discussion-
Will paint in the customers' choice of color be offered?
Will previous customers of FF5 be able to bring their chassis to your shop to retrofit a body to their chassis?
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Hi Bob.

Yes you got it. For previous owners likek the MKIII we have already the body/chassis setup so this will not be the problem. I may have to think about the idea to install the new body style on those MKIII chassis as well.
Should not be a bad idea.
For mrmustang...Bob...I am a little bit short fused and I dont take false advises from a guy like this. I am too old for that. A am a original old school German coachbuilder where a word or handshake worth more as a contract...unfortunately not here in the USA.
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A question here:

Is there a way to kick this mrmustang thing out here? Because he is starting again pi...ng me off and I promised to be not ofensive. A letter from my company attorney was already send to him and he will get it soon for false accusation proofed by himself. False nosy girl guys like him were reasons to start wars as history proofs. I made mistakes and I assume them but this guys is trying for not loosing his face after all the crap he told.
Just tell me if I am wrong.

Can't see how asking a few simple questions could piss off such an intelligent person such as yourself?

Of course if you misspoke and have something to hide, then yes, I could see why not answering the question(s) being asked might piss you off.

I'll let the others chime in as to whether you are wrong or not, for in my eyes, with then lack of any real substance in your posts, and your one sided flow of information, you are indeed wrong.

The information highway called the internet is a two way street, you want ideas and information to continue to flow in your direction, you have to eventually offer some information in response.

8+ posts, all because you did not want to answer "Who is Tony", don't you think that was ridiculous on your part?

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Just a response from Dave Smith at FFR would go a long way here. Just saying...
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Just a response from Dave Smith at FFR would go a long way here. Just saying...
Dave is still on vacation with the family.



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A question here:Is there a way to kick this mrmustang thing out here?
You are just lucky you did not get the boot yet - -better you don’t ask for actions of moderators.

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A letter from my company attorney was already send to him and he will get it soon for false accusation proofed by himself
Hey, this is not fair --- I want a letter too!!!!

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Just tell me if I am wrong.
The short answer is: ->Yes.

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With FFR I have an agreement with Tony that we are going individually and we agreed that future customers can in fact buy kits from FFR without a …… Lets see.
Yeah, I’m very curious what Dave’s answer is on that matter.
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The overlay and profile views of the FFRs in above posts aren't of MK IVs I'm pretty sure. So those wont be much help to you.

You're best bet would be to get a basic kit to have the frame to work with and then put he fiberglass body up for sell. People crop up from time to time looking for replacement bodies.
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Pretty sure Dave will come back from his vacation as "Dave".
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Dont take any of this personal .I think all of us want you to succeed in this venture.It will benefit us all. Many car guys can fail, even if they bring a better product,if they cant relate to their clients. I think MrMustang is trying to verify all this info for our safety . And it got personal for you . I think its just business. There are a lot of people on the net that can rip you off and thats where fact checking comes in hand to help both sides,from scams. I run a small business and the public can be the most challenging task .Its a profession in itself.Good luck and I really hope this can work.
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Pretty sure Dave will come back from his vacation as "Dave".
Man - you guys are killing me! To say this hobby attracts Type A personalities has got to be the understatement of the century!
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Now I'm dating myself a bit...
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Dont take any of this personal .I think all of us want you to succeed in this venture.It will benefit us all. Many car guys can fail, even if they bring a better product,if they cant relate to their clients. I think MrMustang is trying to verify all this info for our safety . And it got personal for you . I think its just business. There are a lot of people on the net that can rip you off and thats where fact checking comes in hand to help both sides,from scams. I run a small business and the public can be the most challenging task .Its a profession in itself.Good luck and I really hope this can work.
RE: "There are a lot of people on the net that can rip you off..."

This is very true. A prime suspect would be anyone who ebay sells something that doesn't actually exist yet, or maybe someone who sells on ebay with a direct copy/paste of a competitors specifications, or maybe someone who represents other's work and photos as his own, or maybe someone who chooses aggression and threats rather than rationally answering questions, or maybe someone who...

He may be right about one thing though. It's probably about time for a mod to step in.
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Ok, its getting off the objective as I already predicted together with other good sensed members who contacted me already by email.
If someone has good faith and want to participate this project is very welcome and I can be contacted over email. I will see also how to open a blog on my website about us and those projects.
There is one thing I am keeping following:

"A mans character is not defined by talking, its defined by what he has accomplished in his life"

So I will not waste my precious time here. You had your chance..

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And, you are still posting in BOLD. I thought you fixed that?
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Ok, its getting off the objective as I already predicted together with other good sensed members who contacted me already by email.
If someone has good faith and want to participate this project is very welcome and I can be contacted over email. I will see also how to open a blog on my website about us and those projects.
There is one thing I am keeping following:

"A mans character is not defined by talking, its defined by what he has accomplished in his life"

So I will not waste my precious time here. You had your chance..

Good speed

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