Coyote xs v 427

[NewYorkGuy]

Originally Posted by Hoity

Would the Coyote Aluminator XS with the Cobra Jet intake fit under the hood of a cobra. That intake sits pretty high?

Yes, the Cobra car with a coyote engine is also called a Mustang.

cobra looking body + old school engine = Cobra
cobra looking body + new mod engine = hot rod

[xb-60]

Hoity, do you have a feel for how much time and $ are involved in doing an average IM240 test? That should be figured into the cost of a non-standard engine selection.

Cheers,
Glen

[Hoity]

Hey glen, my loose plan atm would be to install the motor, do the checks, fill with oil, get it started and then take it to herrods for a tune and I understand they can simulate a Ims test.
The actual test I understand is $700 per go, no second chances, you fail, u pays ya money for anotha go!


NEWYORKGUY not sure what your telling me there!!

[Zacson]

427W all the way. Coyote has nothing down low and that is where you want your power. Specially on the street. No good having something you have to rev the crap out of to get performance unless you are on the track.

And in my opinion, if you go a forced induction engines, they don't have the same raw, aggressive feel as a tough aspirated engine. Sure, they produce great power but it just isn't the same! I'm not a fan.

If your 427W has a good EFI/ignition setup, it will be easy to live with too.

PS. Steer clear of solid cams if you want low maintenance.

[Hoity]

Originally Posted by Zacson

427W all the way. Coyote has nothing down low and that is where you want your power. Specially on the street. No good having something you have to rev the crap out of to get performance unless you are on the track.

And in my opinion, if you go a forced induction engines, they don't have the same raw, aggressive feel as a tough aspirated engine. Sure, they produce great power but it just isn't the same! I'm not a fan.

If your 427W has a good EFI/ignition setup, it will be easy to live with too.

PS. Steer clear of solid cams if you want low maintenance.

Hey Zacson, i see your in OZ, doing a Pace with a 427. Are you getting full reg(not sure if you have permit reg up there) and if so any issues getting the 427 thru?
If so, where did you get your 427 from I have assumed its a Ford.

[pm125]

I just got my BDR with a 435HP Coyote, it is awesome. Would not have done it any other way.

[Hoity]

Hey Dan, the kit I will probably go with has had coyote engines fitted. Width is not the problem, the motor I was referring to is the Aluminator XS, it has the cobra jet intake manifold which is quite a bit higher than stock. Would it clear the bonnet scoop?

http://www.fordracingbyspeedshopdire...6007-a50xs.htm

[DanEC]

I have no idea. It looks like a Mustang GT Coyote is 28.89 inches from bottom of pan to top or engine shroud but I couldn't find a dimension for the Aluminator XS. It does look a little taller but how it would line up with a Cobra hoodscoop I couldn't even guess. Once you settle on a replica make their fabricators will probably be the best source of information. You may have to go to a slightly oversize hood scoop.

[BADSN8K]

THERE IS A LOT OF MISINFORMATION BEING GIVEN HERE..

You have a basic Coyote the 2015 model is 435HP

If you intend to supercharge the motor you need to buy the Aluminator series as the internals will support the SC. The standard Coyote will not.

FYI the Aluminator does not make MORE HP.

I have a 2014 Coyote. With a Lund tune, and the headers we delivered 425 RWP and 385 ft lb of torqe.

All these guys telling you that you need a Small Block, big block or need 600hp and 500 plus torqe are offering you opinions only... there is no proof of their theory... its what they like and then to see them providing wrong data on the Coyote further supports them not really knowing the facts....

Call Jay @ Vintage Motor Sports 888 427-1965

He offers numerous engine options including 427 packages...

Heres another source for you. Unfortunately, they have not updated their sight. the Boss intake motor has not been available for a while now. and the 412 HP is from 2011-12.
https://fordperformanceracingparts.c...ngine/main.asp

[DanEC]

Originally Posted by BADSN8K

THERE IS A LOT OF MISINFORMATION BEING GIVEN HERE..

FYI the Aluminator does not make MORE HP.

Not saying that I believe all published manufacturer's ratings but why would Ford Performance Parts list the Aluminator XS at 500 + HP?

[BADSN8K]

Originally Posted by DanEC

Not saying that I believe all published manufacturer's ratings but why would Ford Performance Parts list the Aluminator XS at 500 + HP?

The Aluminator XS motor isn't available anymore as previously stated. Ford Racing is lacking on updating their site....

I don't mean to come off as knowing all but I just built a Coyote Cobra and I search all my options.

I left the phone # on my previous post for those interested to call.

Good luck

[DanEC]

Originally Posted by BADSN8K

The Aluminator XS motor isn't available anymore as previously stated. Ford Racing is lacking on updating their site....

Got it - must have missed that earlier.

[Hoity]

Originally Posted by BADSN8K

The Aluminator XS motor isn't available anymore as previously stated. Ford Racing is lacking on updating their site....

I don't mean to come off as knowing all but I just built a Coyote Cobra and I search all my options.

I left the phone # on my previous post for those interested to call.

Good luck

Just chatted with FPR, they have one in stock and are doing some more for next year, the XS is not dead yet!

[fordracing65]

Originally Posted by Hoity

Just chatted with FPR, they have one in stock and are doing some more for next year, the XS is not dead yet!

For $15000 your in FE territory with 100 more hp and 150 more tq...even a Windsor you would save 5 grand and have more power...
11 to 1 compression will need more than 93 octane not to ping, you will have to mix race fuel with premium, I had to do that with my Aluminator...

[Hoity]

All good comments, i understand the difference between torque and HP. That was why the 427/428 is a pretty tempting offer. The std coyote at 435hp TQ? is a cheaper option than a 427/428 but down on grunt.

I thought the XS would of been a good motor, upgraded Heads, cams, oil pump, intake etc
Seemed like pretty good value.

Not really interested in rebuilding one to the XS specs either, want to stay NA.

[d488y2]

Hoity, I'm putting a supercharged Coyote engine from a 2013 FPV GT in my build and it fits. You can also make the Coyote engine look very cool, just add an 8 stack injection system and some billet valve covers.

[Hoity]

Originally Posted by d488y2

Hoity, I'm putting a supercharged Coyote engine from a 2013 FPV GT in my build and it fits. You can also make the Coyote engine look very cool, just add an 8 stack injection system and some billet valve covers.

Hey d488y2, i am not sure if the Cobra Jet intake manifold is higher than yours, do you have much clearance under the hood/scoop?

I would like something a little different although given the amount of chevs going into these things, anything ford is a little different!

The 8 stack looks great, but when you factor in what you get with the XS, compared to the std coyote, then modifying to suit. Its probably cheaper going with the XS and its all sorted from the factory

Coyote miami do you have much clearance under the hood?

[d488y2]

Pace did a test fit just before my kit was shipped. There’s not a lot of clearance but it fits. The body is currently off my build and if all goes to plan I should be dropping the engine in soon.

Originally Posted by Hoity

Hey d488y2, i am not sure if the Cobra Jet intake manifold is higher than yours, do you have much clearance under the hood/scoop?

I would like something a little different although given the amount of chevs going into these things, anything ford is a little different!

The 8 stack looks great, but when you factor in what you get with the XS, compared to the std coyote, then modifying to suit. Its probably cheaper going with the XS and its all sorted from the factory

Coyote miami do you have much clearance under the hood?

[BADSN8K]

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[Hoity]

That is some motor?

Might be a little more than i am looking for, price is good though!