408 KC Crate engine and install package 17,000.00

[RodKnock]

In my past efforts in purchasing crate engines, I've had a sometimes tough time trying to reconcile the differences, and there always are, of one builder's crate engine from another builder's crate engine. Do they both have forged steel cranks, I-beam versus H-beam connecting rods, CNC'ed aluminum heads versus non-CNC'ed aluminum heads, SB's have a variety of choices too, oil pans, carbs, camshafts and their specs, old seasoned versus new engine blocks (Dart, World, Keith Black, etc.)? Along with what Jay mentions above.

While the engine builders can make these comparisons for the consumer, I think the ultimate responsibility for making an informed choice is us the consumer, which includes companies like Jay's that sell complete packages.

[jhv48]

KC, wish you were on the west coast!

[Keithc8]

Our website is getting totaly redone right now and it will help on the engine package description. I do several different types of engines for different builders and customers. I do the same exact engine that Roush does as well with the same parts. There is no secrects as to what is used in these engines. There are different options for different people. You do not have to have a Dart block and steel crankshaft for a 6000 rpm 408 engine that makes 500HP. We do them with that stuff if that is what the customer wants. In my opinion if I used a Dart block I would go with a 427 engine.
Jay if I charged as much as Roush and sold you all of your engines I would have no problem doing what they do. I also know that Roush gives kick backs on thier engines to the dealers so that they will push them and use them. If you want to pay the same amount to me as you pay Roush I will be happy to do all of the things they do for you. I tell you what I will do the same engine as they do for 500.00 less and do the same thing on the warranty. If a customer has a problem after a year with one of our engines I will just send him another one to go in its place and fix the other one for the next time should there be one. I already do all of this so it is no big deal. I have even got on an airplane and went to see my customers when needed.
I have been doing this crate engine stuff and these strokers longer than anybody out there. I was doing it when we were turning down 400M cranks and using Ford 6 cylinder rods. I even sold Roush their first stuff to test with for their crate engines. I also do all my CNC head work in house and it is not purchased from another vendor. We assemble every pair of heads for each engine.
We also dyno test every engine that we send out because I do want to make sure everything is ok when it leaves here. This is a no brainer on the engines and this is something that we have always done on most ever engine.
If you do a good product you do not have many problems. I might have to do something to about 1 out of 100 engines if that and that is normally due to a part problem.
Let me know if there is any other questions that I have not answered. Jay feel free to call me at 870-246-7460 and I will get you over some information for the engine you would like to have. I have several Superformance and Backdraft dealers that are asking about less expensive engines because the cost of some of the others have driven the cars higher than most people want to pay. I am doing business with one Backdraft dealer that is getting complete cars together with this 408 package and can sell the cars for 45,000.00 and still make money. I have Superformance dealers that using it and getting som eof their cars together for less than 59,000.00 and we know that you will pay at least 42,000.00 to 43,000.00 for a Superformance roller and that is with very few oiptions. Most of their cars are selling for closer to 70,000.00 now.
You do get what you pay for but why pay to much when you don't have to. Like I said we do a complete 427 small block with Dart block and all the stuff that Roush has for 12995.00, it us to the customer wether he wants to save any money. Thanks, Keith Craft