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10-26-2009, 09:30 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: San Diego,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF1715, Roush Built 434 ci Stroker, Dart Block, Ported AFR 205 Heads... 561 hp / 547 tq, Former Roush Show Car, Completed and Prepped By Olthoff Racing.
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Originally Posted by ratsnst1
some of those bikes he builds are very fast and would smoke most cobras.
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He builds some very nice bikes, but they are not fast in the world of bikes. I have beaten some very fast sport bikes (much faster than the choppers he builds) in my Cobra. |
10-26-2009, 10:16 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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He builds some very nice bikes, but they are not fast in the world of bikes. I have beaten some very fast sport bikes (much faster than the choppers he builds) in my Cobra.
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I don't know... I would say most sport bikes would give our Cobras a run for their money (and beat mine, at least). Check out this page for a nice summary of sport bike times.
http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_...mes/index.html |
10-26-2009, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ratsnst1
some of those bikes he builds are very fast and would smoke most cobras.
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Originally Posted by patrickt
I don't know... I would say most sport bikes would give our Cobras a run for their money (and beat mine, at least). Check out this page for a nice summary of sport bike times.
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Come on, guys. Sport bikes and the cruisers that OCC builds are two different classes of motorcycles. We're talking apples and oranges here. I would put my Cobra up against anything that those OCC clowns build any day, any week. They are great craftsmen (at least Junior is...his Dad comes off as more of a hack to me). But they build pretty bikes, not fast ones.
Can't recall the last time I ever saw someone on a cruiser bike pushing 3 digits. They're simply not geared (and shocked) to deal with that.
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10-26-2009, 04:08 PM
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Come on, guys.
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My post was in response to this bit of braggadocio: "I have beaten some very fast sport bikes ... in my Cobra." When I think of sport bikes, I think of ten second quarter bikes -- and that chart has a few nine second bikes. I don't think a lot of Paulie's bikes are safe over about 50MPH.  |
10-27-2009, 10:31 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF1715, Roush Built 434 ci Stroker, Dart Block, Ported AFR 205 Heads... 561 hp / 547 tq, Former Roush Show Car, Completed and Prepped By Olthoff Racing.
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Originally Posted by patrickt
My post was in response to this bit of braggadocio: "I have beaten some very fast sport bikes ... in my Cobra." When I think of sport bikes, I think of ten second quarter bikes -- and that chart has a few nine second bikes. I don't think a lot of Paulie's bikes are safe over about 50MPH. |
I have owned several bikes over the years. Try taking a "10 second" bike on paper to the strip and see what you can run. They pay pro's who take sevral runs to get those times. I had a GSXR that was a 10 second bike stock. I put on race tires and a Vance & Hines stage three kit, and could barely break into the high 10's after several runs. Having to battle wheel lift while trying to hit your shift points is tough. |
10-27-2009, 10:39 AM
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They pay pro's who take sevral runs to get those times.
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Well that seems to make sense. It's bound to be much harder than a car. On the other hand, there's only two things keeping me from running 10's; the car and the driver. |
10-27-2009, 11:11 AM
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I have a guy at work with a 650 that wants to race.
Told him I would give him a 20 foot head start, but we stay in the same lane for the full quarter mile.  He won't do it. 
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10-27-2009, 03:22 PM
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Well that seems to make sense. It's bound to be much harder than a car. On the other hand, there's only two things keeping me from running 10's; the car and the driver. |
These cars definitely not easy to launch from a standing start, but I think a sport bike is harder. You really have to get your weight over the front of the bike as much as possible, and still you have to roll into the throttle to keep from going backwards. The rake on these bikes is not set-up for the drag strip. |
10-26-2009, 09:41 PM
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I have to dissagree with ya on that one
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Originally Posted by RedBarchetta
Come on, guys. Sport bikes and the cruisers that OCC builds are two different classes of motorcycles. We're talking apples and oranges here. I would put my Cobra up against anything that those OCC clowns build any day, any week. They are great craftsmen (at least Junior is...his Dad comes off as more of a hack to me). But they build pretty bikes, not fast ones.
Can't recall the last time I ever saw someone on a cruiser bike pushing 3 digits. They're simply not geared (and shocked) to deal with that.
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I didnt mean all of the bikes he builds just some of them are very quick in the quarter mile, and yes they are very uncomfortable, I have some friends that build them and the hp to weight ratio is unreal, I am not trying to start any big argument here, but I do know some guys that have some very fast bikes. |
10-26-2009, 10:14 PM
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Yeah, I'd have to agree that some of the OCC bikes are likely extremely quick. From the designs I've seen also extremely dangerous at any kind of high speed!
Take the Cobra for instance, it to could be considered dangerous at high speed. But the difference is the chassis, brakes, suspension are designed for high speed and control. Those choppers just look scary as hell at anything over 70 mph on a smooth flat freeway with little traffic. Lord help you if you had to manuver!
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10-27-2009, 10:21 AM
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[quote=patrickt;995974]I don't know... I would say most sport bikes would give our Cobras a run for their money (and beat mine, at least). Check out this page for a nice summary of sport bike times.
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I have run a handful of sport bikes from a rolling stop, and have yet to lose. The one bike that ran neck and neck with me was an R1. The smaller dispacement bikes are no match.
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10-27-2009, 10:24 AM
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I have run a handful of sport bikes from a rolling stop, and have yet to lose. The one bike that ran neck and neck with me was an R1.
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I believe you. I wonder if it takes a certain "breed of cat" to run 10 second quarter miles on a sport bike, and most owners of those bikes are not of that breed. |
10-26-2009, 09:36 PM
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the ones I saw him build were very fast
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He builds some very nice bikes, but they are not fast in the world of bikes. I have beaten some very fast sport bikes (much faster than the choppers he builds) in my Cobra.
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Some of those engines he puts in those things are up to 130 hp, with a huge fat rear tire, there very fast.and very light. |
10-27-2009, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ratsnst1
Some of those engines he puts in those things are up to 130 hp, with a huge fat rear tire, there very fast.and very light.
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My GSXR was putting out 146hp out of the box. After the stage three kit you can add about another 20 to that. The custom choppers are nice, but not in the same league as a sport bike. |
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