Brake calliper just fell off today

[ratsnst1]

I think when anybody takes over a turn key car that has been completed, no matter who built it, needs to do a once over on the car, at least I would, the brakes would be the first to check, not very hard to do this stuff.

[madmaxx]

Strange,

When i picked up my Lexus I never did a once over, when I picked up my GMC never did a once over, when I picked up my Miata never did a once over, all the aforementioned were $20K plus cheaper than the SPF. Give me a break tighten the fuking bolts and nuts before the chassis leaves the factory. People are limited by others expectations, if everyone goes oh well it is a replica, that part of the ownership experience, they will continue to not improve until someone is killed and they are shut down.

Originally Posted by ratsnst1

I think when anybody takes over a turn key car that has been completed, no matter who built it, needs to do a once over on the car, at least I would, the brakes would be the first to check, not very hard to do this stuff.

[ratsnst1]

Originally Posted by madmaxx

Strange,

When i picked up my Lexus I never did a once over, when I picked up my GMC never did a once over, when I picked up my Miata never did a once over, all the aforementioned were $20K plus cheaper than the SPF. Give me a break tighten the fuking bolts and nuts before the chassis leaves the factory. People are limited by others expectations, if everyone goes oh well it is a replica, that part of the ownership experience, they will continue to not improve until someone is killed and they are shut down.

Its too bad we need to do these safety checks, but I feel it is mandatory, and im a hell of alot safer in my other cars and trucks that I own if god forbid something happens.

[puppster]

These are not production cars. No one should ever get in a race car with out a tech. inspection that includes checking all nuts and bolts, and looking for cracks. I know these are not race cars either, but they do have one thing in common, they are not production cars (and most have more than race car power). OEM's develop tourque specs for every critical part by testing fasteners in a very scientific way, and then assigning a torque spec for each fastener, and then they continue to test the assymbly in harsh but real world conditions, over and over. This type of R&D is not free. If you want to own a specialty car like this, you need to have repect for what it is, and do at least an annual check of all critical nuts and bolts. If these companies were to held responsible like an OEM, they would be driven out of business very quickly. Could you imagine if NHTSA had jurisdiction over our hobby?

[madmaxx]

I agree with safety checks but the but the bottom line is if you cannot tighten bolts on a consistent basis and guarantee there continued tightness then, YES you should be driven out of business.

OEM rely on minimuim torque's. As long as they are tightened to a minimium torque they do not car how tight the fastner is tightened as long as it does not damage what is being tightened. If a bolt does not break while tightening it wont since it is faced with torsion and axial stresses when be tightened but once tightened it is only faced with axial stresses.

Rest assured if a manufacture contacts loctite, they will come in at no charge and do a complete presentation of the proper loctite compound and installation method at zero charge. The R&D on fasteners is FREE and has been for about 50 years.

In the end a mistake has been made, I hope to never see another post like this about a fastener backing out, on a brake component LOL. If a recall is necessary on all cars to have the fasters checked, removed, loctite added, then that is what should happen.

Originally Posted by puppster

These are not production cars. No one should ever get in a race car with out a tech. inspection that includes checking all nuts and bolts, and looking for cracks. I know these are not race cars either, but they do have one thing in common, they are not production cars (and most have more than race car power). OEM's develop tourque specs for every critical part by testing fasteners in a very scientific way, and then assigning a torque spec for each fastener, and then they continue to test the assymbly in harsh but real world conditions, over and over. This type of R&D is not free. If you want to own a specialty car like this, you need to have repect for what it is, and do at least an annual check of all critical nuts and bolts. If these companies were to held responsible like an OEM, they would be driven out of business very quickly. Could you imagine if NHTSA had jurisdiction over our hobby?

[Spoooky]

Well back on the road. I wanted to say thank you to Lance at "Superformance" for working directly with Charlie at "Hot Rods by Dean" and Charlie for going out of his way to help me on a Sunday night. They took care of all the brake caliper repairs at not cost to me. The rear bolts were loose too, but not as bad at the fronts. I am glad that nothing was damaged or anybody got hurt. I also had a complete nut and bolt check done on the entire chassis and it was all pretty good and tight. Be sure that I'm going to be doing a nut and bolt check, paint marks or not going forward frequently.