Club Cobra Gas-N Exhaust  

Go Back   Club Cobra > Manufacturers, Engine Builders, tools, and parts. > Superformance

Keith Craft Racing
Nevada Classics
Main Menu
Module Jump:
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
Keith Craft Racing
Keith Craft Racing
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
November 2025
S M T W T F S
            1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30            

Kirkham Motorsports

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2010, 09:20 AM
patrickt's Avatar
Half-Ass Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,025
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Clayton View Post
red and blue fittings from disco era?????

How about red and blue fittings from the Cobra era?????
I like my silver ones better.


Last edited by patrickt; 11-08-2016 at 12:54 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2010, 09:59 AM
dcdoug's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bethesda, MD
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 6022, navy blue, period correct 427 SO
Posts: 2,154
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
I like my silver ones better.
x2. I am have a few red and blue anodized connections in my engine bay and am working to replace all of them with silver fittings, or brass in a few cases where that was the original look.
__________________
“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.”

www.partskeeper.com
(Less time searching, more time wrenching & driving)
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2010, 10:02 AM
patrickt's Avatar
Half-Ass Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,025
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dcdoug View Post
x2. I am have a few red and blue anodized connections in my engine bay and am working to replace all of them with silver fittings, or brass in a few cases where that was the original look.
Brass? Hmmm. I'm at the point now where if I don't like the original look, I say "screw it" -- I think I hit that three seconds after the second roll bar holes got drilled. Got any shots of what the brass fittings look like?
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2010, 02:05 PM
dcdoug's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bethesda, MD
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 6022, navy blue, period correct 427 SO
Posts: 2,154
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
Brass? Hmmm. I'm at the point now where if I don't like the original look, I say "screw it" -- I think I hit that three seconds after the second roll bar holes got drilled. Got any shots of what the brass fittings look like?
I believe the fittings that couple the hard fuel line to the log and also the hard fuel line to the mechanical fuel pump are brass. I don't have them yet though, they are in transit. But they are NOS, so they should be accurate. I will let you know when I get them.
__________________
“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.”

www.partskeeper.com
(Less time searching, more time wrenching & driving)
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2010, 10:47 AM
Gunner's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Sacramento, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 707, 446ci FE
Posts: 1,115
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Clayton View Post
red and blue fittings from disco era?????
How about red and blue fittings from the Cobra era?????
As far as I've ever been able to determine, the red and blue anodized aircraft fittings didn't show up in cars until at least the mid-1970s and didn't become common until the early '80s.

Can you produce a era pic of these fittings on Cobras or equivalent cars?
__________________

= Si Opus Quadratum vis, angulos praecidere noli. =
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2010, 10:07 AM
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 15,712
Not Ranked     
Default

As it concerns original look, the basics will ALWAYS apply. Get a reasonably accurated body shape, get reasonably accurate wheels, don't go wild on the interior with crushed velvet or some wierd application. Heck, your almost there if you just follow the "basics".
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2010, 11:11 AM
Jerry Clayton's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bartlett, Ill
Cobra Make, Engine: Everett-Morrison LS1
Posts: 2,448
Not Ranked     
Default

The AN fittings were around race cars way going back after WW2 and Korea--By 1970 we were running hard lines with the 37* AN adapters--and any era pics would be black and white!!!!
You can look at the pics of my dragster in my gallery for evidence of 1970 leading edge plumbing using BLUE AN nuts, sleeves and adapter fittings.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2010, 11:41 AM
Gunner's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Sacramento, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 707, 446ci FE
Posts: 1,115
Not Ranked     
Default

I'm not necessarily arguing, Jerry, but I've never seen anything but anecdotal evidence that the red and blue fittings were used before about 1975. A pic of any era car NOW is dependent on someone's statement that it was that way back when.

There ARE color photos of these cars in the 1950s and 60s. Those I've seen show silver fittings only, sometimes brass. In my experience, the colored AN fittings were new and kewl racer tech around the mid-1970s, not before. (My personal recollections don't go back to the Cobra era, but my dad was a racer in the 1950s and I grew up around various performance cars and engines, none of which had those fittings.)

I would genuinely appreciate a positive, non-anecdotal proof of red/blues in use in the original Cobra era. A dateable era photo would be sufficient. Even a good enough b/w photo would show something other than silver or black.
__________________

= Si Opus Quadratum vis, angulos praecidere noli. =
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2010, 01:49 PM
computerworks's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
Lifetime Contributor
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport, NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
Posts: 10,362
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
I would genuinely appreciate a positive, non-anecdotal proof of red/blues in use in the original Cobra era. A dateable era photo would be sufficient. Even a good enough b/w photo would show something other than silver or black.
I have photos from the 60's showing blue fittings. I recall some Coupe pics I have from 1965 showing blue fittings.

...not the bright blue of today...more a turquoise blue, but nevertheless....blue.

No red, though.

Here is a 427 Comp car as delivered. Photo was taken in 1968

Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2010, 01:50 PM
patrickt's Avatar
Half-Ass Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,025
Not Ranked     
Default

Well, that answers that. Woof-woof....
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2010, 01:52 PM
computerworks's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
Lifetime Contributor
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport, NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
Posts: 10,362
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
Woof-woof....
I ignored that. Don't poke the dog too often.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2010, 02:15 PM
Gunner's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Sacramento, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 707, 446ci FE
Posts: 1,115
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by computerworks View Post
Here is a 427 Comp car as delivered. Photo was taken in 1968
Accepted as People's Exhibit A. Thanks. Not being a PITA, but that car has some hard use on it and I could see it having had some maintenance and upgrades after delivery.

I'd love to see more photos from the 1964-66 era if anyone has them, especially if they more specifically show the AN fittings we saw (more of) later.
__________________

= Si Opus Quadratum vis, angulos praecidere noli. =
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2010, 02:22 PM
computerworks's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
Lifetime Contributor
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport, NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
Posts: 10,362
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
I'd love to see more photos from the 1964-66 era
I did say that's how it was delivered, but it could have been reworked as well...but it was taken at the end of the '68 season.

I have more photos, but you'll have to take my word for it. Blue was used in the day.

Last edited by computerworks; 04-01-2010 at 02:28 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2010, 02:48 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,078
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by computerworks View Post
I did say that's how it was delivered, but it could have been reworked as well...but it was taken at the end of the '68 season.

I have more photos, but you'll have to take my word for it. Blue was used in the day.
Ron, you have a PM.
__________________
Chas.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2010, 11:57 AM
Jerry Clayton's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bartlett, Ill
Cobra Make, Engine: Everett-Morrison LS1
Posts: 2,448
Not Ranked     
Default

The pics of my car were in Hot Rod Mag in fall of 1970---is that dated enough???
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2010, 12:47 PM
patrickt's Avatar
Half-Ass Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,025
Not Ranked     
Default

Why don't we just ask Computerworks? Asking him a question like that is like asking a dog to bark.
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2010, 01:32 PM
Gunner's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Sacramento, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 707, 446ci FE
Posts: 1,115
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Clayton View Post
The pics of my car were in Hot Rod Mag in fall of 1970---is that dated enough???
Sure. But it's five-six years past the Cobra era and into the earliest era I'd take someone's word the fittings were in use on cars.
__________________

= Si Opus Quadratum vis, angulos praecidere noli. =
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2010, 01:52 PM
Jerry Clayton's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bartlett, Ill
Cobra Make, Engine: Everett-Morrison LS1
Posts: 2,448
Not Ranked     
Default

But----we were leading the pack at getting rid of the heavier braided line in favor of lighter weight stainless and aluminum hard line---as used on jet aircraft then
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2010, 01:57 PM
Jerry Clayton's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bartlett, Ill
Cobra Make, Engine: Everett-Morrison LS1
Posts: 2,448
Not Ranked     
Default

wow 4 posts in 2 minutes

that blue fitting is a 90* AN 37 degree to probably 3/4 npt--the hose is a 37* version of a cheap heavy double walled hydraulic hose that was commonly used on oil systems,
and most racers would have them replaced at the first oppurtunity.
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 04-01-2010, 02:03 PM
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 15,712
Not Ranked     
Default

CW,,,uh,,, it was funny though.


...woof.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy
Links monetized by VigLink