Mark III Build

[Detroit Bill]

Engine is done. Dyno'ed at 562 hp at 5600 rpm and 578 tq at 4100 RPM.
I was disappointed that it came in below the target set but doubling back to correct it would take time I do not want to spend as the summer slips away. Given more time on the dyno I think more power could have been realized but I could not stay longer unfortunately. I want to have it tuned in the car on a chassis dyno which is more important. I'll see how I feel about the driveability and power before I do that.

An interesting test we did do was to run the engine with and without the air cleaner. It is not an exact test because adding the air cleaner richens the mixture. So you would really want to make adjustments for max numbers with the air cleaner on and off.

I got Acton's Maxx air cleaner base, a K&N filter and K&N 9" Extreme round top. I also will have a Turkey Pan.

The Numbers came in at 556 hp and 575 tq at the same RPM's as above. Any filter is going to have some effect but for the small size of that filter (9 x 2-1/2 tall with the Extreme top) the effect was minimal.

[DWRAT]

Originally Posted by Detroit Bill

I was disappointed that it came in below the target

I agree with you here.
I personally think you should send that low HP motor my way and I will be very happy to deal with it.

You're gonna have one hell of a ride very soon.

[Detroit Bill]

Originally Posted by DWRAT

I agree with you here.
I personally think you should send that low HP motor my way and I will be very happy to deal with it.

You're gonna have one hell of a ride very soon.

Yea, I know it is plenty but the goal was 600 and that is not close.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Detroit Bill

Yea, I know it is plenty but the goal was 600 and that is not close.

You will never, ever, ever, ever be able to tell the difference. Never.

[Detroit Bill]

Originally Posted by patrickt

You will never, ever, ever, ever be able to tell the difference. Never.

Apparently I think I have a small pecker and I wanted the bragging rights to say 600. The ultimate problem is I am honest.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Detroit Bill

Apparently I think I have a small pecker and I wanted the bragging rights to say 600. The ultimate problem is I am honest.

I'll just photoshop the dyno sheet for you to bump it up to, say, 617 HP, and you can just tell people you had it dyno tuned by Lykins. That's what everyone else does.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

You will never, ever, ever, ever be able to tell the difference. Never.

Never is a very long time.

Bill, personally, I think if your target was 600, then your target should have been met. But that's just me.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Bill, personally, I think if your target was 600, then your target should have been met. But that's just me.

OK then, target met.

[Detroit Bill]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Never is a very long time.

Bill, personally, I think if your target was 600, then your target should have been met. But that's just me.

I agree, trust me he is aware I am disappointed. But the car that should have been done in late April is not going to be done until late June. If I held it up to revisit the engine it would be late August. It is hard to find a 18 x 12 snow tire.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Detroit Bill

I agree, trust me he is aware I am disappointed. But the car that should have been done in late April is not going to be done until late June. If I held it up to revisit the engine it would be late August. It is hard to find a 18 x 12 snow tire.

Just purely from a consumer advocate's point of view, and I do this often as many know here, notwithstanding Patrick sounding off about inflated dyno numbers, I would think engine parts combinations are fairly well-known at this point. Intuitively, you would think there's a well-known combination of "a+b+c" = 600HP.

My apologies, seriously, I'm not trying to be a PITA to anyone. But, I had another poor experience recently when I purchased an item. A completely different situation having nothing to do with cars, but I just get tired of it. So I'm just trying to empathize with you.

Maybe I've reached the "curmudgeon stage." And Patrick can likely empathize with me there, since he's been at this stage for awhile now. I say "likely" because I'm not sure he could show empathy.