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05-15-2016, 10:53 AM
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Who Is Running A Big Block In Their SPF
Looking at most of the newer SPFs being built they all seem to be running a stroked 351. Just curious if anyone here with a newer SPF is running a BB (390/427/428/460). Anything special you need to do to run a BB and if ordering a new one I would assume you would order it ready for the desired BB so the engine mounts and headers would be correct.
Thanks for the information.
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05-15-2016, 10:59 AM
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Location: Buffalo, NY USA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Time Machines Motorsports LLC- Superformance Dealer
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Look up "Detroitbill" here. He has a MK III he recently purchased from us with a 427 FE that Olthoff Racing installed.
If you order the chassis the headers and mounts will be supplied for the FE otherwise the dealer will need to swap or procure the correct pieces. We stock the headers, etc. for the FE.
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05-16-2016, 10:56 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF#1867 , KC427
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Quote:
Originally Posted by E5USMC
Looking at most of the newer SPFs being built they all seem to be running a stroked 351. Just curious if anyone here with a newer SPF is running a BB (390/427/428/460). Anything special you need to do to run a BB and if ordering a new one I would assume you would order it ready for the desired BB so the engine mounts and headers would be correct.
Thanks for the information.
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If you are a power freak you should go big block. I have a 427 Windsor.......is it fast enough oh heck yeah but have I ever thought I should back out of the throttle because I couldn't take it anymore oh heck no. If you like nasty cams, the smell of gas and copious amount of power just go big block from the beginning. I think I will go to a stroked 385 one day.....It may scare the living day lights out of me but I'm not a purist and I don't see the benefit per $ to use an FE. Good luck with your decision and like it was posted before the headers and the engine mounts seem to be all that is holding one back when swapping to a big block.
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05-17-2016, 02:40 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: AC Cars Limited, 302 EFI
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I run a 302 EFI, but right now, am having an all alloy 427 FE built by Brent Lykins, with new custom forged crank, 3.78 stoke as original.
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05-17-2016, 10:29 AM
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Location: Nantucket Island 30 miles off the coast,
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Big Block
I would not have anything else. It is a 427 and should have one under the hood. Not everyone is a good builder for an FE so find a good one but nothing can compare with cubic inches for the raw power and torque from a Big Block.
You will spend a little more but your enjoyment will be greater.
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05-17-2016, 11:47 AM
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A couple of FEs from our customer cars
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05-19-2016, 02:03 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance #1309 www.spfowners.freeforums.net
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I have had a case of the big block wants for a while. I absolutely love everything about my car so the choice is put a big block in my car which is alot of work changing transmissions, etc... Or find one already done with a big block. Problem is everyone I see is not the right color or has things I don't like.
I think eventually I will swap one in my current car.
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05-19-2016, 03:29 PM
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Yup, I've never heard anyone say "man, I wish I put a small block in.".....like I've NEVER heard that......ever.
I've got a stroked 460 in mine....fantastic! I'm down in St. Joe.
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Originally Posted by buddyg
I have had a case of the big block wants for a while. I absolutely love everything about my car so the choice is put a big block in my car which is alot of work changing transmissions, etc... Or find one already done with a big block. Problem is everyone I see is not the right color or has things I don't like.
I think eventually I will swap one in my current car.
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06-04-2016, 01:24 PM
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Mark mentioned my car. I can't speak for a small block because I have no experience but my car with the big block continues to impress me. I have had some fast cars but this one hits a level that is hard to keep up with. But it is not what my wife calls "trust me fast". This is what I call "sh*t your pants fast".
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06-04-2016, 01:39 PM
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The Windsor is plenty powerful. Big blocks look cool and has power. If you daily drive the car go small block. I like small blocks, especially in Cobras. Light and powerful. I have a big block for my Kirkham because you can't put a small block in one or they will cut of your head and stone you to death.
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06-05-2016, 06:14 AM
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After cruising around all morning I can confirm there is no substitute for a big block. The car loves it, I love it and everyone who asks loves it.
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06-05-2016, 07:11 AM
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posted elsewhere ...
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Originally Posted by jacobsed
big block all the way
You NEVER hear anyone say "Man...I wish I had put a small block in"
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posted here ...
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Originally Posted by jacobsed
Yup, I've never heard anyone say "man, I wish I put a small block in.".....like I've NEVER heard that......ever.
I've got a stroked 460 in mine....fantastic! I'm down in St. Joe.
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Quote:
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After cruising around all morning I can confirm there is no substitute for a big block. The car loves it, I love it and everyone who asks loves it.
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... sounds like you need to repeatedly convince yourself of that
The OP might want to read this which relates and does a good job with the pros & cons. 427 FE vs 351w, advantages?
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06-05-2016, 07:28 AM
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Just hate to see somebody missing out....if you're going to track it on a regular basis then the small block is a good choice. But there is no other reason to put a small block in.
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06-05-2016, 07:33 AM
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A poll was taken awhile back, maybe also of some value to the OP -
Club Cobra - View Poll Results
Last edited by Joe's Garage; 06-05-2016 at 07:52 AM..
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06-05-2016, 08:23 AM
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I had a 302 in my first build but always in my heart I knew the next one had to be a FE. Finally, last Oct the new one came in and I stuck the FE in this sucker. Have not driven it yet.. but it sure cranks good and sounds good. Not a SPF... but just trying to help you over the hump... Its just something "right" about a FE.
http://vid393.photobucket.com/albums...psiixl2xsn.mp4
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06-05-2016, 09:16 AM
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A lot of the Cobras are running small blocks because they are available from so many manufacturers as crate engines. For example, the majority of Ford Racing's lineup of crate engines are small block based engines....302's, 347's, 427's, etc. Many guys go with the path of least resistance.
As far as some of the other comments...
I build a lot of engines for Cobra customers and I also have never heard any one say that they are ditching their big block for a small block.
There are also many wives' tales passed around....big blocks are more expensive, big blocks are too heavy, big blocks don't make good engines for track cars, etc. All of those are incorrect, but still get passed around as gospel.
If you want a big block, go for it. It's that simple. My personal opinion is that a 427 style car needs one. A 289 style car needs a small block.
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06-05-2016, 10:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blykins
I build a lot of engines for Cobra customers and I also have never heard any one say that they are ditching their big block for a small block.
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Now that I'm getting older, I'm thinking about downsizing. I'm looking for something with less power, less desirability, something ubiquitous. You know, everyone has one, which will give me anonymity at car shows. Yes! A small block would fit the bill.
Just so you guys know, you're both right in my book.
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06-06-2016, 04:08 AM
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.................. a 427 style car needs one. A 289 style car needs a small block.
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I agonised for 12 months over this and in the end came down to exactly this point of view.
My small block is coming out and a new all alloy 427 FE being built now, will be going in. It certainly isn't the easy choice because the car is an Autokraft Mk IV with a full inner body, but in the end my mind was made up, for no other reason than the car has the 427 body shape.
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06-06-2016, 06:06 AM
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Patrick, I must say....
That is probably the funniest post you have made in your Club Cobra career. And you did it with the quickness too.
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06-06-2016, 12:53 PM
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Future big block owner chiming in. I like the loud pedal and personally the 427 doesn't get it done for me in regards to pure acceleration. I am by no means an engine guru but based on all the articles and build threads I have seen you can take the exact same engine and by changing cam and cylinder heads completely manipulate the power delivery. I would think with enough cubic inches a big block built to peak at 6000rpm would have plenty of bottom end in our light cars. On a SPF car is it possible to keep the factory hood when you are looking at a 385 series engine? I have heard the intake selection is rather limited......it would be ashame to build something nice and cork it up with a weak intake and airfilter combo. As much as I dislike the thought of having to look at EFI it seems like a multi-port EFI setup would open up your intake options and would allow you to get the proper size air filter on it. If I was buying my car over again I would be looking for a big block.
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