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dallas_ 12-28-2016 02:41 PM

Very cool indeed.
Nice to see other experienced people willing to chime in.

Blas 12-28-2016 02:59 PM

Jim,
Owner's Manual package will be in the mail in the morning. (see earlier email)
Includes the Wiring Diagram and Service Bulletin package, etc. for the MKII FIA's... Owner's Manual to follow after chassis number etc. is established.

If you track any electrical modifications you make, I will customize the Wiring Diagram to specifically match your cars. We will talk down the road on this... I will send two paper copies to you tomorrow, one for marking-up changes and the other copy to soak up coffee spills... We can also do something similar with the Owner's Manual if you like...
Blas

1795 12-28-2016 03:46 PM

Rick and Blas,

Thanks! Great to here that the car will be in production soon and that it will be on expedited status. Things continue to fall in place. Much appreciated.

Moto One 12-28-2016 07:05 PM

New to the site, at least FIA cars, and will be following.

Mark.

Riverside racer 12-29-2016 03:43 AM

"One of the problems we encountered was filling up our catch can on the rear end .... and we found out that the oil was going out the breather or vent hose into the catch can .... and then would not return to the diff.... then we would damage the differential..... "

I personally had never experienced this problem using the 4HU salisbury type , so when the new diffs being used did, I was unsure why. Even the one I got from Mike Mcluskey and assembled by Gear Pro (Alan Will) has never even dribbled after an outing on the track.
Thanks Morris for those great pics...

Mongoose930 12-29-2016 05:31 AM

Sounds like an awesome build!! Looking forward to watching the progress.

Morris 12-29-2016 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverside racer (Post 1412153)
"One of the problems we encountered was filling up our catch can on the rear end .... and we found out that the oil was going out the breather or vent hose into the catch can .... and then would not return to the diff.... then we would damage the differential..... "

I personally had never experienced this problem using the 4HU salisbury type , so when the new diffs being used did, I was unsure why. Even the one I got from Mike Mcluskey and assembled by Gear Pro (Alan Will) has never even dribbled after an outing on the track.
Thanks Morris for those great pics...

It's little tricks like this that make you be able to put a car on a track and have complete confidence in it's ability to perform.....then you can concentrate on driving.....or learning to drive...

By the way......I ran many laps around riverside in the 80's.....

Morris

Lucia289 12-30-2016 12:55 AM

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Jim many congratulations and great choice of car!;)
I'll be eagerly watching your progress from across the pond. Please keep us updated on the build

Lloyd

1795 12-30-2016 04:35 AM

Lloyd,

Is that you behind the wheel? Would like to hear any thoughts that you may have regarding the build and performance on the track.

Jim

Mark IV 12-30-2016 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1795 (Post 1412222)
Lloyd,

Is that you behind the wheel? Would like to hear any thoughts that you may have regarding the build and performance on the track.

Jim

Jim,

Nah, he's a Scotsman now so you canna trust anything he says!:LOL:

1795 01-03-2017 12:40 PM

toploader transmission support
 
Hello everyone. I am in the process of ordering the Girling brakes and should have them here in a few weeks hopefully. I have received the wiring diagrams and some parts of the manual from Blas, thanks. As I was looking over some of the installation instructions it was stated that the transmission support was deigned for a Tremec transmission and that the use of a top loader would require some fabrication.

Has anyone out there with a SPF MKII FIA installed a top loader in their car, and if so, would you please post pictures of how you fabricated the transmission support cross member so that I have an idea of how to modify the support when I receive the roller?

Thanks, and hope that everyone had a happy new year and the god weather will be upon us in a couple of months, or so....in the north east.

Jim

Mark IV 01-03-2017 01:22 PM

Jim,

The toploader uses the same insulator as the Tremec. The "modification" is a flat plate to bridge the distance between the Tremec mounting position to the toploader position. I can fab it for you.

1985 CCX 01-03-2017 01:26 PM

No pics yet? What gives.... :eek:

1795 01-03-2017 01:27 PM

Rick,

Thanks for the quick response! I have to run these things through my head to fill the time until the roller is here :3DSMILE:**)

1795 01-03-2017 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1985 CCX (Post 1412577)
No pics yet? What gives.... :eek:

Still waiting for a delivery date for the roller! Will hopefully have the transmission and rebuilt differential here in a couple of weeks and will post pictures.

I did add the frame as my avatar, that's the best that I can do for now.

peterpjb 01-04-2017 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1795 (Post 1412574)
Hello everyone. I am in the process of ordering the Girling brakes and should have them here in a few weeks hopefully. I have received the siring diagrams and some parts of the maul from Blas, thanks. As I was looking over some of the installation instructions it was stated that the transmission support was deigned for a Tremec transmission and that the use of a top loader would require some fabrication.

Has anyone out there with a SPF MKII FIA installed a top loader in their car, and if so, would you please post pictures of how you fabricated the transmission support cross member so that I have an idea of how to modify the support when I receive the roller?

Thanks, and hope that everyone had a happy new year and the god weather will be upon us in a couple of months, or so....in the north east.

Jim

what I don't understand is:

why can't you get get a race ready roller with correct brakes and differential from spf, while spf is promoting their 289 mkll cars for vintage racing?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark IV (Post 1412107)
Jim's chassis has been ordered from the factory and will be expedited to allow time for the build-out and race prep needed.

As Jim indicated Ross Henry and others prevailed upon SVRA to allow the composite body cars to compete. Vintage racing is facing an issue in that many of the original race cars have reached values that have caused the owners to pull them from competition thus reducing the grids in the most spectator popular classes. Realizing that a viewer can't tell the body material from the stands, SVRA has decreed that we can run our MK II 289 series cars so long as the powertrain and brakes are of period type. We have developed an option for the Girling calipers and solid rotors that may be owner installed on the existing chassis to meet the regulations now in effect. This means there will be several new "old" cars to compete. We have had inquiries from owners of original vintage Cobras about duplicating their race car in a new Superformance MK II and fully expect that within a year there will be several more competing. In fact if we get enough cars, we are looking at a "sub" class that will have their own placing and awards with sponsorship from us.

Currently Jim is the first of two Superformance FIAs destined for SVRA competition. We welcome inquiries from anyone interested in racing on of our cars.


1795 01-04-2017 12:07 PM

They were still working the brake availability when we were putting the order together. Being that this is the first car, we (I) pushed things along a little more quickly to ensure that it was up and running for the race season. The Girling brakes are ready to be shipped and should be here in about a week.

I could have gone with the Salisbury differential from SPF, but decided to go this route as it saved me a few dollars and the budget was getting stretched.

By the time that race season arrives people will be able to order everything that they need.

Mark IV 01-04-2017 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterpjb (Post 1412621)
what I don't understand is:

why can't you get get a race ready roller with correct brakes and differential from spf, while spf is promoting their 289 mkll cars for vintage racing?

The "race brake" package is a non-factory option that must be dealer or customer installed. Just like the fuel cell and race roll bar these are non-standard items that impact the product liability and therefor are "after sale" items.

Virtually all manufacturers do not provide a "race ready" vehicle. Consider that many of the modifications required will differ by the owner, i.e. shock choice, alignment, etc.

The standard differential in a MK II is a ZF, vintage regulations require an original type diff. The Salisbury type diff IS a factory option, however they are currently produced with an aluminum case. The rules only allow an iron unit so the cars come with the frame configured for the Salisbury, we credit for the ZF and can supply an iron unit ready for rebuild as we did with Jim (1795)

This is not really different than modifying a Mustang you bought at the Ford dealer to go racing. The dealer can provide the car and some of the parts but the mods are on the owner.

We are doing all we can to support the customers that are purchasing chassis' from us to race however the factory is not prepared or equipped to produce custom race cars.

peterpjb 01-04-2017 01:25 PM

understand, thanks guys

byronpete21 01-05-2017 04:52 PM

This thread is really making me want to open my piggy bank and go vintage racing. So many dreams, so little time and money.


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