Looking for a Superformance

[BB 67 Corvette]

Originally Posted by DWRAT

The Western Union comment was just a joke.
I got an email from a SCOF member who said this ad is fake.

Even I was skeptical of the $25k price. Paying $40k is very realistic if you are patient. Many people have confirmed their purchase price around $40k and I have seen SPF's advertised for that price. One word of advice.... Don't post the ad of a car you are looking at. The SCOF member who told you the $25k ad was a fake was probably trying to buy the car out from under you which is why he knew the ad was a fake. There are many trolls, so be careful.

[jacobsed]

Originally Posted by BB 67 Corvette

Even I was skeptical of the $25k price. Paying $40k is very realistic if you are patient. Many people have confirmed their purchase price around $40k and I have seen SPF's advertised for that price. One word of advice.... Don't post the ad of a car you are looking at. The SCOF member who told you the $25k ad was a fake was probably trying to buy the car out from under you which is why he knew the ad was a fake. There are many trolls, so be careful.

Frank you are fake news. Get over yourself.

[S1965C]

If it sounds too good to be true...it probably is.

[saki302]

25k smells like a scam. You can't even get a good factory five for that.

I would FLY out there, and meet the guy at a Police precinct, cash in hand, ONLY. Zero exceptions.

Remember certain states have extra 'premiums'- if you have SB100 smog cert in CA that's worth a good $5-10K on top.

And don't be afraid of a fixer upper if the foundation is solid- the SPF chassis holds up to a lot of driving with a few known wear items. This car gives me joy to work on vs. my last Chevy toy, which just gave me regret and diarrhea.

-Dave

[1ntCobra]

Hmm, the link shows the location as New York City, but the pictures look like the car is in a suburban neighborhood.

I don't think I would bring 25k cash on a flight across the country.

I once bought a car on eBay out of state and had to fly there. The seller met me at the airport with the car. We drove together to a branch of my bank. A bank employee acted as the notary to move the title to my name. I withdrew the money as part of the transaction and offered the seller cash or a cashiers check. I think the seller took the cashiers check. And then I drove the seller back to his house and drove home over then next 24 hours. The last part probably would not work for you since it would involve driving across the whole country.

Maybe you could find a club cobra member who lives near the seller to see if the car actually exists before getting on a plane yourself.

[1ntCobra]

The more I think about this, it looks like a scam.

Let's say the seller is not aware of the value of the car, for example in an estate sale, then I think the listing would be much simpler, like "Gramps old blue convertible, I think its worth what I am asking". But with all of the details provider in the listing, a "real" seller knows what they have and what is it worth.

I would guess the car sold at some point in the past with the detailed listing information and now some scammer has copied the old listing to fool someone into sending a deposit for a car that they don't have.

[twobjshelbys]

So get someone to do a PPI... That'll show if it's real or not.

[jhv48]

Before you proceed, call the seller and ask him to do a FaceTime call so he can show you And you can inspect the car in person while you talk on the phone. Then at least you’ll know the car actually exists and is in his possession. Then proceed with an independent Inspection. And don’t travel with cash. If the sale is legit, upon inspection and viewing the title and registration, use a wire transfer to complete the sale.

[Alfa02]

Dan, I hope this turn's out, to be true, I can still call (Adam is Adam) and ask for his help, as he lives in NY. I've passed on Don's SPF @46K as there are too many unknown's, Even though its a 940mile (2004 year) car (It does look brand new), all the seals, etc. could start leaking after just a couple hundred miles, and that open's a whole different can of worm's. Here's hoping for you, Cheers TommyRot.

[Randy Rosenberg]

Same pics as from the listing on Vanguard's website: https://www.vanguardmotorsales.com/i...-superformance

[saki302]

From Randall:

Dave, someone alerted me to this ad of 241 being sold.

https://newyork.craigslist.org/brx/a...209677790.html

241 is a long time SCOF member and I spoke with him on the phone and his
car is not for sale. It's sitting in his garage.

The ad is an old, old ad for 241 back before the current owner bought
it. There are very few bondurant cars, and 241 is one of them. 241 has a
427 in it as well.

Even so it should not be confused with car 1241, that car is a known
owner in Michigan, different color, different car.

There is no way that ad is car is either of the above. This is not a
guess. But made through actual phone contact yesterday.

Just FYI.

BTW, you can add these same ads to the list...

Vintage Motor Cars :: 1997 Cobra Superformance

https://www.vanguardmotorsales.com/v...-superformance

[1ntCobra]

Well this 25k price inspired me to go bargain hunting. I just went on eBay and bid 25k on a Kirkham, but was immediately outbid and did not hit the reserve.

[Alfa02]

Thank you so much Adam, and I'm sure Dan will thank you also This is the exact reason, I care so much about our club, and it's members, we WATCH OUT for each other, and ready to help in a moments notice. Give me a call and we'll catch up, as you see Ol'Don the guy here in Washington, was ready to make me a (Hellva Deal) on his SPF, knocked a WHOLE 4k off his 50K price tag, my momma didn't raise no fool I did find another nice FFR MK.3A 408ci 440HP, TKO-600 All paper work.(Very special owner) so if you know anyone looking, let me know. Cheers Adam, TommyRot.

[AngeloB]

How about the Daytonas pricing vs selling price ? I have seen #s in the $150 to $+++ thrown around. Are there rollers or finished cars at lower prices ? F-40 in CT had a FFR Type 65/Daytona listed at $60K & I think it went to TX for a lower price. Anyone know the details/facts about this sale ?

[1ntCobra]

Well I am still looking for one of those $25k bargains. On eBay I am now the current high bidder on CSX4786 but unfortunately $25k does not meet the reserve.

[olddog]

If the sale does not happen due to the reserve, they may contact the high bidder and try to negotiate a deal. Also they may contact several others and try to get you into a private bidding competition.

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by olddog

If the sale does not happen due to the reserve, they may contact the high bidder and try to negotiate a deal. Also they may contact several others and try to get you into a private bidding competition.

I have a feeling that dealers listing Kirkham and CSX4xxx/6xxx cars on eBay are doing it as a way of advertising the cars and they probably don't expect to get realistic bids.

Just looking on eBay now, I see Vanguard Motor Sales has a Kirkham with a buy it now price of $229,900. That just seems like a way of getting some inexpensive advertising for the car. I doubt they expect to sell the car at anywhere near that price, but maybe someone find it on a google search for Kirkhams and decide to actually go look at the car and offer to pay a realistic price, which I would guess to be aout 1/2 of the buy it now price.

I suspect that Bring A Trailer might have a better chance of selling a higher priced type of car than selling it on eBay, but looking at the last 16 auctions for CSX4xxx/6xxx cars on BAT only 6 of the 16 were sold.

Getting back to Superformance, I really wonder about the black car that sold for $135k. I think MrMustang said something about trying to make the market. It could be that someone is trying to push up Superformance prices with a fake sale, but you never know maybe the buyer had more money than sense.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by 1ntCobra

Getting back to Superformance, I really wonder about the black car that sold for $135k. I think MrMustang said something about trying to make the market. It could be that someone is trying to push up Superformance prices with a fake sale, but you never know maybe the buyer had more money than sense.

Sometimes, all it takes are two friends, or two rivals with money to burn to make a "record" sale. Sometimes there is more to it, sometimes there is not. As observers, we may never know.

Bill S.

[Karl Bebout]

CSX4927 is on Hemmings Auctions now that ends in 10 days and is sitting at $46K so far. The Shelby signed dash will surely add at least $10K to its value.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Karl Bebout

CSX4927 is on Hemmings Auctions now that ends in 10 days and is sitting at $46K so far. The Shelby signed dash will surely add at least $10K to its value.

I think it added a good $50k to mine. Maybe $75K. Possibly $100k.