Windshield Question

[Semper Fi]

I was told that the new winshields didn't have the middle bracket anymore becuase you don't need it.

[Tony Aprile]

The early cars had glass that was bonded to the frame (glass only replacement was not possible) and had no support rod........ the rod started somewhere around car # 1300 along with the new high cowl body shape...at this point the glass was no longer bonded to the frame as the originals and glass only was replaceable....somewhere around car # 2000 the shape of the glass remained the same but the glass was partially bonded in the middle of the top and bottom of the frame, thus glass replacement was possible and the support rod was no longer needed....so you could put the newest frame on lets say car # 1350 and it would have no support rod....from #1300 to the latest out of south Africa the body has not changed nor has the shape of the glass.

[Semper Fi]

Originally Posted by Tony Aprile

The early cars had glass that was bonded to the frame (glass only replacement was not possible) and had no support rod........ the rod started somewhere around car # 1300 along with the new high cowl body shape...at this point the glass was no longer bonded to the frame as the originals and glass only was replaceable....somewhere around car # 2000 the shape of the glass remained the same but the glass was partially bonded in the middle of the top and bottom of the frame, thus glass replacement was possible and the support rod was no longer needed....so you could put the newest frame on lets say car # 1350 and it would have no support rod....from #1300 to the latest out of south Africa the body has not changed nor has the shape of the glass.

Tony,

I am no expert, but I believe you are not 100% correct. I own car # 1350 (2002), my friend Chris owns car # 1750 (2004) and our cars are different. Mine is the "old" stlye and his is the "newer" stlye. We have parked our cars side by side and you can really notice that my car (older cars) has more of a curve in the dashboard and the body. Chris's car (newer car) is flatter looking in the same area.

[Tony Aprile]

Semper Fi

I only speak of the experiences I've had with Superformance. I have owned my SPF since 2002 (#1358) and have worked in a local shop that does the engine installs and final assembly and delivery of these vehicles for an SPF dealer. There's a fairly large SPF contingent here on Long Island and I have been around these cars for four years now, I have replaced numerous windshields on SPF's ( all later then #1300) so they all had support rods. Some had the rear view mirror on the cowl and later cars had them attached to the support rod....
The newer cars , starting somewhere around #2000 and I can't remember exactly had no support rod and bonded glass, although the newer glass that is now bonded is of the same shape and the rear view mirror was attached to the glass directly.
I am member of SCOF (Superformance Cobra Owners Forum) and windshield problems have surfaced from time to time, SCOF keeps close ties to SPF and if there was another change to the body shape there would be yet another windshield....If im wrong I'll be the first to admit it, really.

There should be no difference between the shape of your #1350 and Chris's#1750 and they both use the same frame and glass and the body has not changed. If someone along the line changed an original SPF windshield frame for lets say the current aftermarket there will be discrepencies. A while back there were SPF glass shortages and some of the guy's changed entire glass and frames to non SPF due to the shortages.

I'd like to here more of the differences of your cars and who told you that the glass is different ???

Tony

[Semper Fi]

Originally Posted by Tony Aprile

Semper Fi

I only speak of the experiences I've had with Superformance. I have owned my SPF since 2002 (#1358) and have worked in a local shop that does the engine installs and final assembly and delivery of these vehicles for an SPF dealer. There's a fairly large SPF contingent here on Long Island and I have been around these cars for four years now, I have replaced numerous windshields on SPF's ( all later then #1300) so they all had support rods. Some had the rear view mirror on the cowl and later cars had them attached to the support rod....
The newer cars , starting somewhere around #2000 and I can't remember exactly had no support rod and bonded glass, although the newer glass that is now bonded is of the same shape and the rear view mirror was attached to the glass directly.
I am member of SCOF (Superformance Cobra Owners Forum) and windshield problems have surfaced from time to time, SCOF keeps close ties to SPF and if there was another change to the body shape there would be yet another windshield....If im wrong I'll be the first to admit it, really.

There should be no difference between the shape of your #1350 and Chris's#1750 and they both use the same frame and glass and the body has not changed. If someone along the line changed an original SPF windshield frame for lets say the current aftermarket there will be discrepencies. A while back there were SPF glass shortages and some of the guy's changed entire glass and frames to non SPF due to the shortages.

I'd like to here more of the differences of your cars and who told you that the glass is different ???

Tony

Tony,
I wasn't talking about the glass in my earlier post. I was talking about the shape of the car. Chris's car is #1715 (not 1750--my mistake) Actually, the glass is different. Like I mentioned earlier, when we had our cars right next to each other, you can cleary see that my car is shaped different than Chris's car. (I am talking about the curvature of the dashboard and the hood)

I will try to get a picture of the 2 cars together and you can cleary see the difference. Since the "shape" of the 2 cars are different, the winshield has to be different as well because of the curve.

[Tony Aprile]

Originally Posted by Semper Fi

Since the "shape" of the 2 cars are different, the winshield has to be different as well because of the curve.

Semper Fi
Glass aside, there should be no difference in the shape of the body between 1350 and 1715 as well as the latest factory releases. I will run this by the guy's on SCOF...


The only body shape difference was the old body from car #1 to #1200 give or take 30 cars, then the body cowl was raised on the new body and thus a new windshield shape, this remained the same until present...

Are you sure one of you are not reading your car number correctly, because the
VIN sometimes places a "1" in front of the number thus confusing them.

Check out this link:

http://performanceunlimited.com/scof/carnumber.html





Tony

[Semper Fi]

Originally Posted by Tony Aprile

Semper Fi
Glass aside, there should be no difference in the shape of the body between 1350 and 1715 as well as the latest factory releases. I will run this by the guy's on SCOF...


The only body shape difference was the old body from car #1 to #1200 give or take 30 cars, then the body cowl was raised on the new body and thus a new windshield shape, this remained the same until present...

Are you sure one of you are not reading your car number correctly, because the
VIN sometimes places a "1" in front of the number thus confusing them.

Check out this link:

http://performanceunlimited.com/scof/carnumber.html
Tony

I am positive that my car is SPO1350 (says on the title) and Chris's car is SPO1715. I am also positive that they are different. Not trying to start a pissing match, but I don't know what else to tell you. I will get a picture of our cars side by side so you can actually see there's a difference in the 2 cars!

This is strange, just like when Chris was trying to get a new winshield on his car (# 1715) the winshield that came off his car didn't match my winshield or the new winshields that SPF had in stock. The frames were actually shaped different. I know--this is puzzling, but I can assure you I am speaking the truth and I don't smoke crack