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Old 10-23-2008, 09:09 PM
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Cobras,

Did your car end up having the TKO 500 or TKO 600? My car has the Olthoff motor mounts with a Roush 402 and the pipes are in a similar orientation (very close to the body on the passenger side and more centered on the driver's side). If the pipes aren't hitting the body and/or you don't see any cracks, then I would leave it alone.

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Cobras,

If the pipes aren't hitting the body and/or you don't see any cracks, then I would leave it alone.

BTW - Congrats on the new car!!
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You need to center the headers equally on both sides cause
if you don't the exhaust temperatures will blister the paint
on the side with the least clearance. Been there and done that.

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thanks got the bug, been a long time waiting to get one of these cars.

im sure that if i lossen off the motor mounts and the tranny,side pipe mounts i should be able to shift over the motor, it would straighten out the clearance issues with the pipes. but then again who really knows untill i do it, i dont think it would throw out anything in the drive line, the drive shaft should compensate for it. even when the hood is closed and you look in at the air cleaner its not centerd with the hood scoop, its pushed over to the drivers side that quarter of an inch. weird as hell but that has to be the issue.


how about the clutch? is yours the same way, kind of slow to come back up when you let go of it? mind you its not bad but not as fast as i would like it to be,


and the gas pedal... seems a long way down to press before it activates the carb.

none the less i love the car still havent driven it beside getting it off the trailer and into the garage,,, no insuance as of yet till appraisal is done.

so i hope to be cruising the streets come monday or tuesday


oh and as for the tranny still no idea what it is will look at the plate when i got it up on the jack stands when im shifting over the motor....
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Old 10-23-2008, 10:25 PM
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As McDoo said, the important thing is having the headers passing thru the bodywork properly centered to prevent paint blistering. As to where the engine sits, is the engine level left to right? Sliding the engine forward and backwards is easy to do by loosening the motormounts on the chassis and using a short prybar to move the engine. The driveshaft is rarely perfectly straight from the trans to the rearend. Is this a new SPF? What is the car number? Who did the install?
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blas the install was done at D&M, car is spo 2162 and has 700 miles on it. also there are 2 shims under the mount on the pass side to raise the motor up.

when i said about shifting the motor i mean shifting it from side to side driver to pass side.

its just the side pipes are off running down the side of the car and where the pipes come through the body is bad also, i talked with kevin 2 days ago and he told me the car originally had a roush engine in it and they took it out and put a ford mosport 475hp engine in it, im not sur if this issue is the norm for these cars or if its the ngine not looking centered in the engine bay
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Old 10-24-2008, 08:07 AM
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... the install was done at D&M, car is spo 2162 and has 700 miles on it.
OK. Write out all of your complaints and ask D&M for a written answer. Maybe they will correct some of the things. If not, get a written reply to your questions. Then you will have a leg to stand on if anything goes wrong. Once you make any adjustment to the "install", D&M are off the hook.

One thing you want to take a look at is the driveshaft angles.

Now that you have my attention, I may go out to my unheated garage (42°F outside) and take some measurements. But I have 17K miles, and no problems with paint by header/exhaust pipes.

As soon as you touch the gas pedal, the carb should respond. Are you a SCOF member yet? There is a great write up on accelerator pedal adjustments in the library. You should also join Second Strike. Both SPF based sites have a ton of help.
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I have #1436 with a big block in it. My motor sits 3/4" off to the passenger side. Even though the engine is that far over, my side pipe was still closer to the body on the passenger side. On SCOF, you can purchase a shim to correct it. Is isn't just a flat shim, is is a tapered shim. Otherwise the pipe drops down to much.
Before I put the shim in, I couldn't even put my finger between the pipes and body. I never changed it till I had about 15k miles on the car.

As for the clutch, it is only the master cylinder pushing the pedal back up. So I can't image it getting any faster unless you put a spring on it which I don't think it needs.

Did you check to make sure the nut on the gas pedal shaft is tight? If it is loose, the pedal will move before the shaft moves all the linkage. If thats the case, the shaft might already be worn. I had to replace mine.

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Old 10-24-2008, 12:20 AM
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[quote=cobras;891946]thanks got the bug, been a long time waiting to get one of these cars.
even when the hood is closed and you look in at the air cleaner its not centerd with the hood scoop

I'm not sure about the small block cars, but the 427s were offset 3/4" towards the passenger side to give more room in the drivers footwell.
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As others have said the pipes need to be centered in the fender openings or you risk heat damage to the paint and body. When the headers are centered properly in the fender holes and spaced equally side to side your engine will be essentially centered or so close your eye can't tell the difference.

Take the extra effort to do it right. You will feel real bad if you cook your paint and/or glass.

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Guys
You need to center the headers equally on both sides cause
if you don't the exhaust temperatures will blister the paint
on the side with the least clearance. Been there and done that.

McDoo The real one
WOW...McD00 does it again. He's been there and done that on just about
every screwup you can.
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WOW...McD00 does it again. Don't let him by my meat!!!
You know over on SCOF you couldn't spell either...Hey
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