"Halibrand Cobra II wheels in......MAGNESIUM

[1985 CCX]

They are perrrddy though.

[DMXF]

The one in that picture looks like from the small batch of wheels that were made by M&A Castings and sold out the "back door" using Halibrand's patterns around 8 years ago (Halibrand was not pleased). The machining/details were not worked out at that time, as new patterns and machining programs were developed to make the wheels more accurate relative to the ones made in the 90's. This "work in process" state can partially be seen by the step on the inner diameter of the dish where it transitions to the casting. Halibrand never fully completed development to go into regular production again, although the outstanding issues were supposedly not too difficult to resolve.

Availability of new correct magnesium Cobra II wheels would be nice, I would get a set myself for safety in track events or other anticipated severe usage, keeping the original wheels in storage. However, I would want to see, in detail, what the new wheels look like in finished condition, front, back and sides, before putting money down (getting the wheels right involves repetitive samples and comparisons to the originals). M&A had to make new patterns, because Halibrand took the other ones back, so everything is basically starting from scratch, although M&A has the advantage of having make them in the past.

[DMXF]

One other thing potential buyers should be aware of, mostly of concern to original car owners, is that any of these new wheels will not be exact to the original 60's Halibrand wheels because of regulatory changes since these were first made. In order to meet the current requirements, the lip areas are different, which shows up in somewhere around a 3/4" difference in wheel OD (can't remember now which was worse, front or rear).

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by DMXF

Availability of new correct magnesium Cobra II wheels would be nice, I would get a set myself...

This whole subject reminds me of a 7th grade dance, where the boys stand on one side of the cafeteria and the girls on the other. You've got guys like RodKnock, who won't post a hard dollar figure that they'd be willing to pony up and pay, and you've got "internet challenged" guys like Kress who can't even post on the forum and have to have guys like Mark IV run the point for them. Then you've got smart guys, like DMXF, who are justifiably skeptical over the whole kit and caboodle. If everyone that wanted the damn things would just write a decent sized check and send it DMXF, with the understanding that he would make sure the product was done right, you could probably get it all done, fast and right, instead of waxing on here, ad nauseum.

[bliss]

Yes, the entire thread seems odd - no price, they really aren't Halibrand's and everyone seems to be stroking each other about possibilities versus reality.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

This whole subject reminds me of a 7th grade dance, where the boys stand on one side of the cafeteria and the girls on the other. You've got guys like RodKnock, who won't post a hard dollar figure that they'd be willing to pony up and pay, and you've got "internet challenged" guys like Kress who can't even post on the forum and have to have guys like Mark IV run the point for them. Then you've got smart guys, like DMXF, who are justifiably skeptical over the whole kit and caboodle. If everyone that wanted the damn things would just write a decent sized check and send it DMXF, with the understanding that he would make sure the product was done right, you could probably get it all done, fast and right, instead of waxing on here, ad nauseum.

Post a hard dollar figure? I'm not the manufacturer or seller, why is that my responsibility? I've been a buyer since I bought my Kirkham 5+ years ago. I would have bought them years ago, if they were available. Fran may eventually post a price, and then I'll make a decision. I'm NOT a buyer "at any price."

As for "stroking", I'm not sure what that means in the context of this thread. And it adds nothing to this thread. Reminds me of me.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I've been a buyer since I bought my Kirkham 5+ years ago.

And an unsuccessful one at that. Look, this is not a box of Good 'n Plenty, you can't just pick them up where you find them. If you, and others, really want them, you should put the money up, so that somebody actually has the cash in their hot little hands, so the deal can be done. If you could find three other people, besides yourself, that would write a check for $5k and send it off to DMXF, I bet he'd deliver with change left over. And if not, he'd just send you your check back. Damn, I'm tempted to just give you the $5k to shut you up.