"Halibrand Cobra II wheels in......MAGNESIUM

[RodKnock]

So you propose to have me write a check for $5,000 to someone I don't know and without any sort of paperwork trail or story. And DMXF hasn't even offered his services. Uh huh. Sure.

And is $5,000 the right number? What if the final number is $10,000, what then? I have two sets of Trigos, so I'm not desperate.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

So you propose to have me write a check for $5,000 to someone I don't know and without any sort of paperwork trail or story. And DMXF hasn't even offered his services. Uh huh. Sure.

And is $5,000 the right number? What if the final number is $10,000, what then? I have two sets of Trigos, so I'm not desperate.

That is precisely why, five years from now, you'll be posting "I've been a buyer since I bought my Kirkham 10+ years ago...." And I'll be posting my same wise-ass response.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

That is precisely why, five years from now, you'll be posting [i]"I've been a buyer since I bought my Kirkham 10+ years ago....

And I'll say it proudly and loudly.

Maybe I'll send that $5,000 into the stock market since it's now at it's 1989 high and it keeps going up. Lots of room to run.

[DMXF]

Patrick, I appreciate your confidence in me, but I think I've had enough of car parts deals. I had an arms length agreement with the owner of Halibrand back then to work with their engineer and provide all the details to get their new wheels to be much closer to original than they had previously been. In exchange for my help I was to be able to purchase a half dozen sets at the previous market rates they had been receiving and these sets were to be made to exact as original, incl the old lip design, to be marked on the invoice as "off road use only". I spent many hours sending them photos of my wheels and taking extensive measurements, going back and forth marking up their drawings (virtually nothing was correct as it was). They sent me a front and rear machined sample using the new patterns that still needed major machining setup/dimensional adjustments and I provided extensive feedback on what to address. Near the end of the process Halibrand just said they need to come back to the project later on and left me just hanging - then they proceeded to sell a batch of the wheels to the public with many of the errors still present. I'm not looking to throw my time away in these types of dealings.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by DMXF

Patrick, I appreciate your confidence in me, but...

Yes, I had heard of that... and I don't blame you one bit for not wanting to screw around with it again. I wouldn't want to either, for that matter.

[bliss]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

So you propose to have me write a check for $5,000 to someone I don't know and without any sort of paperwork trail or story. And DMXF hasn't even offered his services. Uh huh. Sure.

And is $5,000 the right number? What if the final number is $10,000, what then? I have two sets of Trigos, so I'm not desperate.

Send $20,000 - that should cover it. Case closed. Don't forget, they aren't Halibrand's, never will be.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by bliss

Don't forget, they aren't Halibrand's, never will be.

And I won't forget that my Cobra is Kirkham either, not an original.

The newer versions say "Halibrand II", so they're not original Halibrand's either.

Seriously, I don't give two "expletive deleted" that they say Halibrand on them. Like they made a great original wheel in the first place (see DXMF's comments). But, if the new wheels, if and when made, are produced to modern 2013 standards and they're more accurate than the other previous "II" runs, then I'm "there" and happy as a clam.