Goodyear Billboards balancing

[RICK LAKE]

jmimac351 3 things JM First off do you know that those tires you are driving on without a balance are PER WEARING out your drive train? If the worst of the vibration is in the front end, wheel bearings, tierod ends, the rack and pinion itself,( internal gears ) the steering system up to your hands. If its in the rearend, depending on the rearend if solid axle both rear axle bearings, the axle tubes, over time the spider gears in the carrier. If a jag rearend the outter hub bearings, and the u joints to them. 2 nd thing is that you are dangerous enought to drive a car with this problem at high speeds, you said you drove 80 mph and the problem is worse. If you are on a race track at this time, Fine. If you are out on a street or highway with other people around you, and cobras are people magnets, doing 70 mph. It's very possible the a tire could seperate and you have one hell of a ride to look forward too, I just hope that you take no one with you. Not sure what you are worth to your wife and kids, your car is worth from 40-60k dollars and all the time and work you put into it. The worst part is you are only worth 1,000.00 dollars. This is the cost of a TOP set of tires for your car. I am not so worried about you but someone else that ends up in the wrong place at the wrong time. As far as stenciling tires that a choice, I do think the safety factor comes into play, or maybe a class action suit again GY for maken poor tires may change there way of thinking. This kind of thing requires the DEATH of about 5-10 people before anything is done. The last thing Man rules, a statement where some men with small brains, big balls, and going through there middle age adjustments have as an excuse for being dumb. I have 2 out of the 3 things listed above, small brain and middle age, I am just not foolish enough to risk someone elses life for $1,000.00 dollars. Have a good day JM. Ps I have seen over the last 10 years more people get hurt from the don't worry about it thinking. 1 dead, 1 burnt over 20% of his body, mostly hands feet, arms, face and neck, 3 others ending up in hospitals for weeks. 1 guy was in traction for 8 weeks. Broken back. Have a nice day JM Rick L. New rule, get smarter everyday. I at lease try.

[RedBarchetta]

Originally Posted by RICK LAKE

...put the Black wall side out, and stencil in the letters on the tires. Takes about 15 minutes per tire after you make the stencil.

This is something I might have considered when I was...17.

Someday GY is going to get their act together and make the right DOT, radial-based tire that has "the look." And then we're going to view this archived thread and laugh our ass off.

[jmimac351]

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Jm Read your own writing. They where mounted and NOT balanced, The machines where at the track. You are a dumb ass. When you have been to a couple of funerals for dead friends that think like you, Maybe you will get with the program. I am done with you, Pissed off but on a depends, Lecture people about things, Only things I am 100% sure about. You need to talk to the Smith brothers and learn about your car. You have a long life. HA-HARick L.

[PatBuckley]

You're not alone - I got a similarly idiotic message from him a while back when I called him on another of his inane posts.

He is best ignored.

[Power Surge]

I don't know JM, maybe Rick likes you, and this is his wait of courting?

I posted the same thing as you, before you did, and he never acknoledged my post.

I drove my car for 7000 miles with "unbalanced" Goodyears and never had one problem, other than the resulting vibrations. That's not to say that driving with unbalanced wheels is the best thing to do in the world, but then again, neither is Goodyeat selling crappy out of round wheels.

I've had my car up to 140mph with those wheels, and not once in 7000 miles did I ever feel the balance issue was putting my driver control, or safety at risk.

Vibrations result from frequency. Frequency only happens at certain times. Unbalanced wheels will only vibrate at two points.... the first mph caused by the unbalance, and then again at twice that speed. Obviously most people won't hit that double frequency number. Rick makes it sound like if you drive around with unbalanced wheels, the car is going to shake the entire time you drive it and be dangerous. That statement is untrue and rediculous.

[jmimac351]

Originally Posted by RedBarchetta

This is something I might have considered when I was...17.

Someday GY is going to get their act together and make the right DOT, radial-based tire that has "the look." And then we're going to view this archived thread and laugh our ass off.

When I got my tires from the distributor over in Daytona and had them mounted, but not balanced - to the horror of some - I asked the guy why Goodyear didn't make something like the Nitto 555RII. He just shook his head and said that they started to go down that path and had a few tires and then dropped the whole thing. He said they claimed there wasn't enough money in it - which is hard to believe with Kumho, Nitto, Hankook, etc. making them. (Or, maybe they felt they couldn't compete with them.) He then went on to say Goodyear was still in an old, two story factory and was sort of an "old dog" of a company. The point was that they weren't really interested in learning new tricks. After that conversation I wasn't wondering about when we would have a radial version of this tire, but how long it would be before I couldn't get it anymore. He said nothing to indicate they were going away, but a conversation like that doesn't make you think new and better things are coming to the table.

But what do I know...

[Excaliber]

Slow down Rick your scareing me! "Man Law", very important, can't be ignored. Not much you could do about suing GY for the Bill Boards, says right on them their for 'racing' use only and NOT DOT approved, the only law they fall under is the "Man Law".

[Bob In Ct]

Kids, fight nice!

Bob

[MaSnaka]

I guess when racing technology hit the consumer market it was learned that round radial tires are better. I don't need a lecture because I already feel like a dumbass. I have a Cobra that looks awsome sitting in a parking space, I would just be embarrassed to have someone take it for a drive. Shake, rattle and roll. I look forward to a good week. And lets not take this stuff too seriously, and remain safe and sane. I'm sure we all take risks and use our best judgement at the same time.

John

[jdean]

John,

Just curious, what did you ever decide about the bumpers?

[Excaliber]

I haven't seen any NEW dry cracked GY's, in fact it seems to take several years for that to happen. It will happen SOONER than a typical commercial passenger car tire, but it WON'T happen to NEW ones.

Now if your SHIPPED 'old stock', well thats a problem with your SUPPLIER. As far as out of round goes, thats a problem with certain batches, again, address the problem with your SUPPLIER. If your not happy with what you got, return them, don't buy them or whatever. If they 'scare' you, buy something else. I have yet to find another brand that offers better traction in a treaded tire. For me, traction equals safety. Therefore, the GY's are my first choice for speeds well into the 100 mph range, wet weather and dry traction. For RACE tires there darn hard to beat, period. There extremely light weight, a very desirable trate when your racing, maybe not so good if you run over debris, your call. You can pick up a BIG GY with one finger, try that with a TA or a Mickey Thompson. The GY's replaced my Mickey Thompson's by the way, the MT's just wouldn't cut it for good traction.

When I was working at the race track, before it shut down, we would get a large number of 'race' tires in various sizes for various cars. When they came in we would pounce on them to get the 'best ones', quality ALWAYS varied. Some were not so good, some were OK, some were great! Didn't matter WHO the manufacturer was, not all race tires are created equal. I know that holds true for passenger car tires as well, but I do think passenger car tires are more closely monitored for defects, all though certainly some get through anyway.

Being as they are CLEARLY marked as RACE tires, it's ridiculous to think your going to sue Goodyear for an accident linked to these tires on the STREET! Which by the way, I've never heard a SINGLE case of ANYONE claiming the GY's caused an accident, not ONE. Nor a blowout from a defective GY.

Firestone getting sued for roll overs? OK, their STREET TIRES!!!! HELLO!!!!

[Dinobyte]

John,

Can I ask where you bought your GY's? I am assuming RKR>>???? I am ready to take the plunge, even after the nightmare you have been going through. Have you been able to resolve this yet? Has GY stepped up to the plate?

Thanks
Michael

[ou812545]

Have you looked at the Avon CR6ZZ?


Avon Tires Cr6zz

[Michael P. Wole]

Excaliber: just returned from your very fine state...wish I would have had my Cobra for the Road to Hana instead of rental van...600+ turns would have been a blast and def would have wanted good boots on for traction.

[Excaliber]

Thats a fun drive! You know, you can actually KEEP GOING past Hana onto a dirt rode on the other side of town. Dirt lasts for about 7-8 miles with stunning views. You come out on the other side of the island. Makes for a very long drive.

Disclaimer: Don't get stuck, rental cars are strictly forbidden (which makes it even more fun)! Might have to ford a couple of creeks along the way, but you can make it.