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09-04-2020, 08:12 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
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Thank you.
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09-04-2020, 09:44 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Note that in the PDF referenced they write: "The bell housing must be aligned within 0.012 inches of runout. If the transmission is not in line with the crank shaft, there will be a bind on the input shaft causing the transmission to shift poorly." I personally believe that failure to align the bell housing properly is the cause of 98% of the transmission shifting complaints on this forum, regardless of the manufacturer. When I was up at ERA many moons ago, it literally took them the better part of a day to get my Lakewood aligned, doweled, and bolted up to my FE. And that was with the engine on a stand, not in the car. This point can't be emphasized enough when your drive train is being put together. 
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09-04-2020, 11:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Note that in the PDF referenced they write: "The bell housing must be aligned within 0.012 inches of runout. If the transmission is not in line with the crank shaft, there will be a bind on the input shaft causing the transmission to shift poorly." I personally believe that failure to align the bell housing properly is the cause of 98% of the transmission shifting complaints on this forum, regardless of the manufacturer. When I was up at ERA many moons ago, it literally took them the better part of a day to get my Lakewood aligned, doweled, and bolted up to my FE. And that was with the engine on a stand, not in the car. This point can't be emphasized enough when your drive train is being put together. 
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I assume you're talking about the hydraulic shifter ?
If so, I just have the normal. I didn't want the headaches of the hydro I hear about, especially with the confines on the Cobra.
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09-04-2020, 11:30 AM
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I assume you're talking about the hydraulic shifter ?
If so, I just have the normal. I didn't want the headaches of the hydro I hear about, especially with the confines on the Cobra.
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No. Aligning the bell housing to the crankshaft has to be as close to perfect as you can possibly get. With a bell housing like my Lakewood, it takes time, trial, and error, to get it just right and then you set it with dowels so when the BH is removed in the future you don't have to repeat the operation. I am told that Quicktime bell housings are considerably better out of the box than Lakewoods, FWIW. If you don't have the BH dialed in properly, your transmission will not be aligned correctly and you will have problems. Dialing in a bell housing does not require an advanced engineering degree, it just takes the time and the patience to do it right. If the engine is sitting on a stand, it is wayyyyy easier to do than lying on your back under the car where you might very well be tempted to say "well I've been under here for an hour, that's good enough." I have no doubt that if the Kirkhams were dropping an engine/trans combo in they would do an outstanding job dialing in the bell housing, as did the elves at ERA. Anybody else and I would ask to personally see the gauge run around the bell housing opening to see what the numbers were. 
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09-04-2020, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
No. Aligning the bell housing to the crankshaft has to be as close to perfect as you can possibly get. With a bell housing like my Lakewood, it takes time, trial, and error, to get it just right and then you set it with dowels so when the BH is removed in the future you don't have to repeat the operation. I am told that Quicktime bell housings are considerably better out of the box than Lakewoods, FWIW. If you don't have the BH dialed in properly, your transmission will not be aligned correctly and you will have problems. Dialing in a bell housing does not require an advanced engineering degree, it just takes the time and the patience to do it right. If the engine is sitting on a stand, it is wayyyyy easier to do than lying on your back under the car where you might very well be tempted to say "well I've been under here for an hour, that's good enough." I have no doubt that if the Kirkhams were dropping an engine/trans combo in they would do an outstanding job dialing in the bell housing, as did the elves at ERA. Anybody else and I would ask to personally see the gauge run around the bell housing opening to see what the numbers were. 
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I bought the Quick Time, and I had a little problem aligning the Trans shaft into the pilot bearing for me, so I bought three from Summit between Jegs and all three were different in size. A friend that is a machinist took some measurements and made a bushing at work, and it is PERFECT lol. So the bell, input & clutch are almost perfect. I've never had them inlign so well.
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09-04-2020, 08:01 PM
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sales@kirkhammotorsports.com is working.
David responded to me in less than an hour.
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09-04-2020, 11:15 AM
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I tried their email but it came back as undeliverable ?
sales@kirkhammotorsports.com
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