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Old 01-17-2022, 01:06 PM
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Does anyone have a part # for the toploader tail shaft oil seal ?
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Old 01-17-2022, 02:43 PM
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You could try giving Dan Williams a call, he knows all there is to know about top loaders. I spoke to him last summer and he was still around.

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The rear seal will be different based on your output shaft(large/small). I sourced toploader parts from Dan a while ago, he was very helpful and generous with his time and advise. He has been around for a long time and appears very well versed in toploaders. I seen to remember he is more of a night owl, not sure if that is still the case? So, calling him in the late afternoon or early evening many prove more fruitful. I highly recommend him based on my experience, caveat emptor, that was about 8 years ago.
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Old 01-17-2022, 05:47 PM
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Yes, Dan is a night owl, do not call him in the morning. Also, he does like to chat, so plan on a nice long conversation. He probably has what you need in his store of parts. As I said, I spoke with him last summer. He is not young, my guess would be probably around 75-80 years old based on some of his stories, so there will come a time when he will no longer be a great resource. He is in NC, so same time zone as you.
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If you bring the old seal to motion industries they could get you one.Not sure if you have one near you.
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#$#@@!$%^^&^& I just spent the better part of an hour writing up what I discovered and I go to post and the$#$@#@ site says I 'm no logged in and wipes it out !
Short version: when tranny was rebuilt/moded, they failed to machine seal recess for c-6 seal!
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I concur with Haas.

Well, not after your last post?
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Another possibility is Larry with D&L Transmissions. I got all my parts for rebuilding my toploader from him along with his excellent advise.

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Problem solved with new seal of same part# as the leaking one. Did not leak a drop on test drive ( with tunnel cover removed ).
However, when I was driving into garage, the engine stalled, and could not restart, starter spun, did not engage. Pulled starter, gear and flywheel teeth bad, have to pull f/w.
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Problem solved with new seal of same part# as the leaking one. Did not leak a drop on test drive ( with tunnel cover removed ).
However, when I was driving into garage, the engine stalled, and could not restart, starter spun, did not engage. Pulled starter, gear and flywheel teeth bad, have to pull f/w.
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WTF? How did that happen?
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I'll have it apart tomorrow. I'll post my findings then.
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Make sure to check crankshaft endfloat.
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MOTORHEAD,
I can not say what caused your flywheel/starter gear issues. However, when I installed my starter the recommended gear tolerences were not within spec. I had the face of my starter machined to bring it within spec. The following post provides some insight, a search my provide others with more details. quicktime bellhousing for fe and starter troubles
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I'll have it apart tomorrow. I'll post my findings then.
We need pics. So far, I think we've been able to conclude that something wasn't right. Other than that, we're not sure.
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Starter and ring gears only meshing 50% . Worked well for 5K miles, but buggered up bad enough that they no longer engaged
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