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				08-16-2007, 02:38 PM
			
			
			
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				 New Crate GT-40 Webers Carb setup 
 Pleased to find your CC site.....here goes 1st post
 Im running a Crate GT40 T56 6 speed and have prob with the low end off idle
 with my IDF48's  on base setting idle is fair except when temps are running hot then it becomes rather crappy. I then get backfiring through the stacks off & on untill I reach approx 2500-2800 & then it pulls steady & smooth.
 
 I'm still reading all the redline/Inglese stuff but was wondering if anyone has been through htis in hopes you might recommend idle jet sizes along with any other  help . much appreciate any adv  Sincerely bmace
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				08-18-2007, 06:52 AM
			
			
			
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				 Pleased to find your CC site.....here goes 1st post
 Im running a Crate GT40 T56 6 speed and have prob with the low end off idle
 with my IDF48's  on base setting idle is fair except when temps are running hot then it becomes rather crappy. I then get backfiring through the stacks off & on untill I reach approx 2500-2800 & then it pulls steady & smooth.
 
 I'm still reading all the redline/Inglese stuff but was wondering if anyone has been through htis in hopes you might recommend idle jet sizes along with any other  help . much appreciate any adv  Sincerely bmace
 |  is your cam Weber friendly?
 
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				08-18-2007, 09:55 AM
			
			
			
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 That's either the cam with too much overlap as Z. Ray suggests or it's a lean condition.  The only reason I shy away from it being too lean is because you note that it starts happening after things are warmed up, which tends to make the A/F ratio go more rich.  Maybe post your cam specs and your carb specs (idle/main jets, chokes, correctors, etc, etc). |  
	
		
	
	
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				08-19-2007, 09:25 AM
			
			
			
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				 That's either the cam with too much overlap as Z. Ray suggests or it's a lean condition.  The only reason I shy away from it being too lean is because you note that it starts happening after things are warmed up, which tends to make the A/F ratio go more rich.  Maybe post your cam specs and your carb specs (idle/main jets, chokes, correctors, etc, etc). |  Sorry.....idle jets are 55ml,air corr 180m, main 150m, chokes 40m |  
	
		
	
	
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				08-23-2007, 05:54 AM
			
			
			
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				 That's either the cam with too much overlap as Z. Ray suggests or it's a lean condition.  The only reason I shy away from it being too lean is because you note that it starts happening after things are warmed up, which tends to make the A/F ratio go more rich.  Maybe post your cam specs and your carb specs (idle/main jets, chokes, correctors, etc, etc). |  Brent,
 
do you know the cam spec parameters for using Webers ?
 
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				08-22-2007, 04:16 AM
			
			
			
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 I would recomend gtting a wide band o2 sensor setup, like the Innnovate LC-1.
 It takes away most of the rich lean guessing and allows you to pinpoint the sources of drivability issues.
 
 Do you have the 3rd transition hole drilled ? On my setup it made a world of a difference.
 
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				08-22-2007, 11:28 PM
			
			
			
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				 I would recomend gtting a wide band o2 sensor setup, like the Innnovate LC-1.
 It takes away most of the rich lean guessing and allows you to pinpoint the sources of drivability issues.
 
 Do you have the 3rd transition hole drilled ? On my setup it made a world of a difference.
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Pardon my ignorance..........pls explain "drilling 3rd transition hole"  thks  bmace |  
	
		
	
	
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				08-27-2007, 09:47 AM
			
			
			
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 Ideally a 50/50 camshaft is recommended. Not to say that if you have a "hot" cam with a lot of overlap, a thumpty-thump sound when at idle, that Webers won't work, they'll just be a PITA to get into tune and run properly though if it is a "radical" cam as some people run you may never get Webers tuned up.I have a 289 with a mild cam just slightly hotter than stock and Webers.
 
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				08-27-2007, 09:59 AM
			
			
			
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 40 chokes are too big for a small block,go with 37's max, this should help your low end and off idle characteristics 
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				08-27-2007, 10:15 AM
			
			
			
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 Would you think 40s are too big if the SB is stroked to 408 or 427?
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				__________________Terry Brown  SPF #930  427W 419 RWHP 48 IDA Webers
 
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				08-30-2007, 05:49 PM
			
			
			
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				 40 chokes are too big for a small block,go with 37's max, this should help your low end and off idle characteristics |  Thks Entdoc for the choke adv.  I agree as local weber gurus 
have mentioned similar ideas.  much appreciate you input.
 
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				08-30-2007, 06:40 PM
			
			
			
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 Terry, 40's may be fine for those applications at least for the 427 stroker. Many feel 40's are too big for even a stroked 427so,that has not been my experience at all and seems to cure the over rich situation . I do think they are too big for 302's however. 
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