Whats CSX1001 Value? (Your Opinion)

[Power Surge]

My opinion is that the car is worth in the $150k range. It's definitely worth more than a top notch alloy 4000 car, but not that much more. The "AC" tie-in is borderline comical given how far removed any form of the modern AC is from the Cobra's original roots. I do not believe the AC factor, or the CSX1000 series VIN give the car that much more value.

The source of the body bucks isn't that important to the value either. Even if they were the originals (which they were not), the value would have come from the original people pounding on them, not the bucks themselves. Heck, most original cars weren't shaped the same anyway.

CSX1001 definitely has a place in Continuation Cobra history, and it's a rare car for sure. I just don't feel it's extra attributes add all that much to the dollar value.

I would put the value of a CSX1000 series in between an alloy CSX4000 car and a McClusky Completion car.

[CSXNUT]

When I ordered AC Bodied CSX1002 it Retailed at $130K or so w/ No Drivetrain. This was at a time when the CSX Aluminum Cars were far less than $100K. Times are tough right now... but it would have cost a guy $170,000 or more to have owned one of these complete and only yours was actually owned by Mr Shelby!

[ENTDOC]

i cannot disagree with Alan on setting you price at 165, you never know who might want it that bad. another point you should realize is that shelby built a few cars in the early 90's and the guy that sold the CSX 4000 car for 110K also has one of those. I think they went for high 300s at that time, on the premise that they were some kind of special car with original roots. He cannot sell it now at 200K.
Sal, the car might seem to be worth 150 , but CSX 4000 aluminum cars can be had for 120 or so on EBAY right now on a daily basis and glass cars seem to be dropping into the low 70s as a routine.

[CSX1001]

All this is very interesting to me... I will not take offense to anyone and their opinion so don't be affraid of that. This is a forum and all should have their say . No problems.
I am trying to post the pics I have of the bucks so everyone can see.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by CSX1001

No problems.
I am trying to post the pics I have of the bucks so everyone can see.

Trust us, if Trevor L. states the original bucks are now buried and helping push up the daisies somewhere in the English countryside you can take that as a fact.



Bill S.

[ENTDOC]

and there woud be no reason for anyone to take offense at the comments and opinions, as we hope you get a lot of money for your car and perhaps you will. However, market indicators would lead one to believe that today, our cars are simply not worth what they were a year ago. that will probably change slowly, but keep in mind that aluminum CSX cars are still being built and dilution will occur and even though originals cannot be affected by dilution, tight money will affect their value also.

[CSX1001]

My pics are to large to attach..Anyone know an easy way I can send them?

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by CSX1001

My pics are to large to attach..Anyone know an easy way I can send them?

Don't use the attach feature, load them directly into your gallery by clicking the camera icon below your name.

[CSX1001]

Originally Posted by Power Surge

Don't use the attach feature, load them directly into your gallery by clicking the camera icon below your name.

Thanks, I put a few pics of the bucks on my gallery. One was still to large. It is a real good closeup but I'll try to get it figured out and put it on.
Thanks

[DMXF]

Originally Posted by CSX1001

Thanks, I put a few pics of the bucks on my gallery. One was still to large. It is a real good closeup but I'll try to get it figured out and put it on.
Thanks

That looks like one of the original 289 nose bucks they gave you pics of. The trunk lid is common between the 289 and 427, so you can say the trunk lid skin was made off the original tooling.

Angliss did employ some of the workers from the Cobra line in the 60's, but over the years many/most retired or passed away. I know the guy who did the upholstery work at Autokraft/AC for many years and even he only started working at AC I recall in the 70's (before joining Angliss). Even if some of them came in after the Cobra period of the 60's, many of Angliss' employees, however, did "cut their teeth" at AC and the skills were transferred along even at Autokraft, so whatever techniques were used to make the original cars were carried over for some period of time.

It seems to me that any car like CSX1001 that originates from suppliers closer to the original scenario has to be worth more than one made all in California (or Africa or where ever the parts have recently been made).

[CSX1001]

Originally Posted by Power Surge

Don't use the attach feature, load them directly into your gallery by clicking the camera icon below your name.

Thanks Sal.. I still have a beautiful pic of the Bucks that I can't upload to gallery and would like people to see it but it says size too large.
Can I email it to someone who knows how to get it in where people can see it??
Thanks

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by CSX1001

Thanks Sal.. I still have a beautiful pic of the Bucks that I can't upload to gallery and would like people to see it but it says size too large.
Can I email it to someone who knows how to get it in where people can see it??
Thanks

Use a photo editor to either scale the image to a smaller size or use higher compression when saving to a jpeg.

If you cannot figure out how to do that, you can email me the picture and I can adjust it when I get home tonight. If that is what you want to do, send me a private message requesting my email address.

[greg schroeder]

Originally Posted by CSX1001

My pics are to large to attach..Anyone know an easy way I can send them?

You can put the images in your gallery, then when you view them large it will give you the URL which you can come back and use as link.

Nice car. I'd sure like to have one like it.

[BigRed427]

Judging from the replies, glad you asked just for an 'opinion.'

I saw your car being built when I ordered mine a few years ago and was very impressed; it is a beauty. Contrary to an early post, you have a unique car in it is a factory built Genuine AC Shelby Cobra. This alone will add value as very few Cobra 427s leave Vegas as complete cars. Add the Shelby title history, the limited number of AC metal bodies, and you have more than a 4000 series car.

I do remember is looking at an AC body next to a Kirkham body. Hands down the AC body was superior. The welds and metal smoothness was noticeably better.

The price from Allan A for $165 sounds reasonable given the facts outlined above. As a point of reference, there is a metal CSX on CC for $129. You could always put it on EBay with a reserve to see what happens. Good luck.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by BigRed427

I do remember is looking at an AC body next to a Kirkham body. Hands down the AC body was superior. The welds and metal smoothness was noticeably better.

Yes, we're glad to be accpeting opinions from everyone, but I'm not sure what the above opinion/statement has to do with the value of the CSX1001.

Personally, I think all the value comments are fairly spot on in my opinion, with the only exception being the current economic problems in an election year. While I would think the car would approach the $200K mark in better times, it's a buyer's market and there are very few of them out there right now. Timing is everything.

[BigRed427]

[quote=RodKnock;882312]Yes, we're glad to be accpeting opinions from everyone, but I'm not sure what the above opinion/statement has to do with the value of the CSX1001.

In CCX's opinion, CSX1001 is the same as a 4000 series. My opinion is this Cobra is not the same for the reasons stated in my original post. The quality of the AC body is just one reason contributing to this Cobra's value.

The Kirkam is a great car and I see you have one.

[Trevor Legate]

Morning all

The first image shows the 289 nose buck, which I'm told is original. I have been told that Angliss had to make his own bucks when he was trading as CP Autokraft in the early 70s. He then made a whole 427 from scratch just to see if he could. Why the 289 was kept and not the 427 is anyones guess!

As for the AC ali panels being 'better' than the Kirkham...wellll, hmm, depends on how you interpret 'better'. I can assure you my 427 (from the AC bucks of whatever vintage) required a whole lot more body filler to iron out the dips & bumps. The paint shop have sprayed circa 3 AC bodies and 5 Kirkhams - they love the Kirkhams as they require minimal prep work. Nice and smooth like a babys bumper. The AC bodies require hours and hours - and hours...they tell me!

[FatBoy]

Originally Posted by Trevor Legate

Morning all

The first image shows the 289 nose buck, which I'm told is original. I have been told that Angliss had to make his own bucks when he was trading as CP Autokraft in the early 70s. He then made a whole 427 from scratch just to see if he could. Why the 289 was kept and not the 427 is anyones guess!

As for the AC ali panels being 'better' than the Kirkham...wellll, hmm, depends on how you interpret 'better'. I can assure you my 427 (from the AC bucks of whatever vintage) required a whole lot more body filler to iron out the dips & bumps. The paint shop have sprayed circa 3 AC bodies and 5 Kirkhams - they love the Kirkhams as they require minimal prep work. Nice and smooth like a babys bumper. The AC bodies require hours and hours - and hours...they tell me!

Hi Trevor,
That was also my understanding from someone who has painted numerous "original" Cobras for Frank Sytner. To quote him, "..they are more filler than metal." That might be a little harsh, but you get the idea.

Paul

[Dan Stryffeler]

From The Car Exchange magazine 1982... Shelby Interview

"If a man really wants to build a car today, why would he copy the Cobra? There isn't one company out there that's making any money at it. Not even the guy in England that AC gave the Shelby American tooling to."

Is this a reference to Angliss?

Dan

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by Dan Stryffeler

From The Car Exchange magazine 1982... Shelby Interview

"If a man really wants to build a car today, why would he copy the Cobra? There isn't one company out there that's making any money at it. Not even the guy in England that AC gave the Shelby American tooling to."

Is this a reference to Angliss?

Dan

If you like to quote some of Shelby's snakeoil, then I would think the CSX 1000 series was not built authentically, because those fellows making the body panels do not appear to be intoxicated nor working under a bridge.