Carroll Shelby Engine Company

[elmariachi]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

2. If Carroll hadn't made the AC into a race car this forum and the hobby wouldn't exist

But in its place would be clubcadet.com, an exciting forum devoted to the Cub Cadet riding mowers:

1. There would those made by Int'l Harvester (known as the "Originals") and those made by MTD Products (called "Continuations") and this would be a hotly debated topic;

2. Owners of each would bicker about which was best, with emphasis on Kohler vs Briggs powerplants and sheet metal bodies vs composite;

The mods would close most threads involving discussions on the two topics above.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by elmariachi

But in its place would be clubcadet.com, an exciting forum devoted to the Cub Cadet riding mowers:

1. There would those made by Int'l Harvester (known as the "Originals") and those made by MTD Products (called "Continuations") and this would be a hotly debated topic;

2. Owners of each would bicker about which was best, with emphasis on Kohler vs Briggs powerplants and sheet metal bodies vs composite;

The mods would close most threads involving discussions on the two topics above.

Then they would make this out of it:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166896/

P.S. This is not your usual David Lynch movie.

[REAL 1]

Time will tell whether I am right in my position.

I take my position not to offend anyone, or to peddle anything I don't find to be true but because I defend the facts as they exist today. I rely on only facts.

I also can't comment on what other CSX owners do or don't do. Don't care. I know one thing for sure... something motivated them to pay more for a Shelby Cobra as opposed to a replica of one. Whether they choose to defend their car is up to them. However, if they choose to be silent hoping to gain some "friendship" or "allegiance" here thats fine. Thats them. I don't compromise the facts in exchange for false allegiances and if being self depricating towards my Cobra is the price of friendship or being liked on CC candidly I'll pass. I already have enough REAL friends. Don't need false ones.

The "replica" dictionary definition arguement does not hold water. SAAC even dealt with this issue. I won't waste my time with it. Read the Registry. I agree with their position.

In the end, enjoy what you have but a part of this hobby is also about respecting what others have. That doesn't happen here much but I hang around to make sure at least one voice is speaking to the facts on these cars (Shelby Cobras).

Lets see who the future finds is correct.

My money's on me.

P.S. The GT350SR is a neat car. But like any enthusiast/collectible car, Shelby or not it can be bought at the wrong price and you can over pay for anything. Point in fact, the price of original Cobras and collectibles have gone up and down over the years. If you bought anything high and chose to sell in a low market you lose. Trick is to buy at the right price and sell at the right time. Economy now sucks. Its horrible out there. Everything just about is way way down. But if you have the money you can get some good buys which may in the future, (God willing this country will survive what we have in Washington), go up in value as the economy improves (again, God willing).

Takes care.

[Silverback51]

Second verse, same as the first.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

Second verse, same as the first.

It's amazing isn't it? The guy is the energizer bunny when it comes to his ONE and only subject.

Evan relies on facts, but speculates on collectability.

I can think of only one volume manufacturer, where after 10 years from their "collectible" car's original production date, the prices are greater than MSRP. Of course, the production numbers of their "collectible" type cars are usually around 300-400 cars each time. Not 1,500, 2,000 or even 4,000 cars produced.

[Gunner]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

...a part of this hobby is also about respecting what others have.

Physician, heed thyself. I haven't seen anyone deprecate your car or any other CSX in here - except on some verifiable engineering points, which are neither here nor there in the value discussion.

What we deprecate is your thundering, obsessive opinion that continuation CSX's are a better investment. (And it is merely an opinion, as yet neither substantiated nor unsubstantiated by any marketplace fact... yet you keep banging on the word "fact" as if you know what it means.)

You, on the other hand, never fail to deprecate all other replicas AND our collective judgment about buying them.

POLITENESS EDIT: There are those who know when to back away from an argument, and those who are unable to. Allow me to demonstrate the former position: *poof*

[patrickt]

Gunner, remember this is all just for fun. If you make the other guy blow up, then you win; if you blow up though, then you lose.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Gunner, remember this is all just for fun. If you make the other guy blow up, then you win; if you blow up though, then you lose.

Phew! I couldn't tell if my "energizer bunny" label was the tipping point.

Now back to magnetic trigger ignitions or something else I have no clue about.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Now back to magnetic trigger ignitions or something else I have no clue about.

I posted a request for assistance over inthe Lounge locating the suction fitting on a late model Toyota Camry V6. If anybody would like to work that question, please check the Lounge.

[Gunner]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Gunner, remember this is all just for fun. If you make the other guy blow up, then you win; if you blow up though, then you lose.

It's more like the maxim about arguing with an idiot.

I wish this forum software had a plonk function. So useful.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Gunner

It's more like the maxim about arguing with an idiot.

I wish this forum software had a plonk function.

No, no, no... you have to be slyer than that. You have to bait him down a path in which he will end up losing regardless of the direction that he takes. Toss out something like "Hey Evan, it appears that owners of CSX2xxx and CSX3xxx series cars do not view continuation Cobras as being "real" Cobras at all. Does that bother you?" Remember Evan's a tricky one, so you have to be cunning, and you have to appear to be coming from a different direction than you really are if you expect to fool him....

[lloyds1]

Maybe you should change your user name to "Continuation 1". That seems to be SAAC's preferred terminology. Nowhere does the SAAC registry refer to a CSX 4000 car as a "real" car. Actually, they don't refer to any cars as "real" cars.

BTW, being condescending does tend to offend people.

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Time will tell whether I am right in my position.

I take my position not to offend anyone, or to peddle anything I don't find to be true but because I defend the facts as they exist today. I rely on only facts.

I also can't comment on what other CSX owners do or don't do. Don't care. I know one thing for sure... something motivated them to pay more for a Shelby Cobra as opposed to a replica of one. Whether they choose to defend their car is up to them. However, if they choose to be silent hoping to gain some "friendship" or "allegiance" here thats fine. Thats them. I don't compromise the facts in exchange for false allegiances and if being self depricating towards my Cobra is the price of friendship or being liked on CC candidly I'll pass. I already have enough REAL friends. Don't need false ones.

The "replica" dictionary definition arguement does not hold water. SAAC even dealt with this issue. I won't waste my time with it. Read the Registry. I agree with their position.

In the end, enjoy what you have but a part of this hobby is also about respecting what others have. That doesn't happen here much but I hang around to make sure at least one voice is speaking to the facts on these cars (Shelby Cobras).

Lets see who the future finds is correct.

My money's on me.

P.S. The GT350SR is a neat car. But like any enthusiast/collectible car, Shelby or not it can be bought at the wrong price and you can over pay for anything. Point in fact, the price of original Cobras and collectibles have gone up and down over the years. If you bought anything high and chose to sell in a low market you lose. Trick is to buy at the right price and sell at the right time. Economy now sucks. Its horrible out there. Everything just about is way way down. But if you have the money you can get some good buys which may in the future, (God willing this country will survive what we have in Washington), go up in value as the economy improves (again, God willing).

Takes care.