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12-04-2009, 09:31 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Laguna Hills,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance SPO2820 408W; former ERA CCX 3-3408 owner
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Manual or electric choke?
Which do you prefer and why? I'm building my new Superformance roller and have to decide. On one hand I hate the idea of mounting a choke pull on (or under the edge) of my new cobra dash. On the other hand I like the idea of better controlling my own destiny, so to speak, and doing it the old fashion, manual way. On the other hand, a electric choke is easier to set up and pretty hassle free when all is said and done.
Which method do you prefer, old fashion manual or modern electric --and why?
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12-04-2009, 09:51 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2613 Titanium w/Black, Roush 402SR
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Tim - Most people either us an electric choke or nothing at all. My guess is that no choke at all is probably the more popular setup.
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12-04-2009, 10:03 PM
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Location: Sacramento,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 707, 446ci FE
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I started with an electric but dismounted it in about a week. Chokes are for cars that need to be started and driven immediately when it's cold. That's a bad practice for high-performance engines, so babying the throttle a little is just part of a proper start and warmup. Ditch the choke; it and its horn are just in the way.
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12-04-2009, 10:28 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Portland,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA, 1964 289->Webers
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You can put a choke on a cobra?!!!
I'd go electric or nothing. Manual would be kinda ugly from carb to dash
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12-05-2009, 05:17 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance # 532, 466 BB, 560HP
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What's a choke? 
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12-05-2009, 06:28 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance Mk III / Windsor platform
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12-05-2009, 07:03 AM
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Here in the NorthEast a choke is mandatory.Many years ago I tried an electric choke on one of my muscle cars,(66 396 Chevelle) It was a total pain in the neck.Always hated waiting for it to come off high idle.Since then all my toys have mechanical chokes.You can apply as much choke as needed to keep engine running,no need to wash the cylinders down with too much fuel.The Plus, was the idle,with big camshaft,and great sounding exhaust.
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12-05-2009, 07:35 AM
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Only time I've had problems with an electic choke were when they were used & monkee'd with. If you get the properly matched choke to the carb & the parts are in good shape, there really isn't much to go wrong once you get it set right. & that's pretty easy to do. & yes, I have lived in colder climates.
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12-05-2009, 07:51 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF - 351W, 944 non-turbo
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Had one on my Holley for 10 years with on issues. I can either set it (gas pedal to the floor) and have the engine start immediately, or not set it and have the engine turn a few times. If the fast idle cam is set correctly there are no fast idle issues.
Bob
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12-05-2009, 09:01 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 427 Unique Roadster, FE by FE Specialties, 470hp, Top Loader, 3:31 Jag
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You live in Laguna Hills? I wouldn't worry about a choke.
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12-05-2009, 09:46 AM
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Look at how close the choke body is to the top of your air cleaner. This might help you to decide.
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12-05-2009, 11:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edwhite7
Look at how close the choke body is to the top of your air cleaner. This might help you to decide.
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And that is why I milled the airhorns off of mine.
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12-05-2009, 06:42 PM
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My personal choice is no choke.
However, if you really want a choke you may want to consider a hybrid electric/manual. You can use an electric solenoid to actuate a manual choke. You then decide when and if to use a choke. It's very easy to wire and you only need 2 wires to a single switch or push button on the dash. Use a normally open solenoid and a return spring and the choke can never fail in the full-choke position. The downside is it's all or none -- nothing in between. Many two stroke outboard motors are set up this way.
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12-05-2009, 06:50 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: RCR GT 40 & 1966 Fairlane 390 5 speed
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Choke?
no choke
you get in the car, crank it and let it warm up using the gas pedal
no choke needed
Dwight
P.S. my small block is fuel injected, but all my carb'ed Cobra buddies use the gas pedal for a choke
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12-06-2009, 02:15 AM
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Location: St. Lucia, West Indies,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427SC 383 stroker
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Question - do I simply remove the choke assembly on my Holley 4160? What about the butterfly - can I just remove it and leave the tower intact? In the climate here warming up never takes very long and for some reason, my electric choke has just been a PITA.
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12-06-2009, 06:46 AM
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yes, you can remove the butterfly and the complete unit.
Dwight
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12-06-2009, 10:31 AM
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Location: Carlsbad,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2932 with 438 Lykins Motorsports engine. Previous owner of FFR 5452.
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Just disconnect it and remove all the moving parts, including the butterfly.
You don't need to remove the air horn unless you want to.
And to respond to the original poster, you live in So. Cal. no choke needed.
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12-06-2009, 11:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jhv48
Just disconnect it and remove all the moving parts, including the butterfly.
You don't need to remove the air horn unless you want to.
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Step 1 is to remove the choke mechanism and wire the butterfly plate wide open. See if you can live with it.
Step 2 is to remove the butterfly plate and rod completely.
Step 3 is to mill off the air horn for an improvement in air flow and some free HP, especially if you have a short air cleaner.
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12-06-2009, 12:22 PM
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Thanks guys. Consider me de-choked.
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