Shelby vs. Kirkham

[dlampe]

A Shelby is a Shelby and a Kirkham is a Kirkham. Two different cars. The Shelby will fetch a higher price. You don't have a choice on how to register them. Both are very nice. In fact many here would suggest that the Kirkham is nicer but it will never be a Shelby. (unless the old man sells you a vin tag!)

[Bill Wells]

Your profile says you live in Switzerland - I guess the real question before you buy any car in the USA, is what does your Government require for registratrion of a car from the USA ........and the differences , if any, between New or Used , ie, a used car perhaps over here already registered as a 1965 model (where legal) may or may not have an affect on how you get it registered there .. a thought anyway . The import duty is probably very on top of a pricey Kirkham or Shelby . Good Luck . Bill

[fonti]

Originally Posted by Bill Wells

Your profile says you live in Switzerland - I guess the real question before you buy any car in the USA, is what does your Government require for registratrion of a car from the USA ........and the differences , if any, between New or Used , ie, a used car perhaps over here already registered as a 1965 model (where legal) may or may not have an affect on how you get it registered there .. a thought anyway . The import duty is probably very on top of a pricey Kirkham or Shelby . Good Luck . Bill

yes, I'm living in Switzerland. There are no differences between Kirkham and Shelby Cobras, as long they are in aluminum.
We need a clear title and a document that shows a first immatriculation for both cars. And both have to be kind of stock looking (427 iron block, 4-speed would be great but also a 5 speed is ok, no billet stuff and so on...)

[Gunner]

Originally Posted by fonti

And both have to be kind of stock looking...

I guess that means no minarets.

[fonti]

Originally Posted by Gunner

I guess that means no minarets.

Yeah...nobody gives a **** about this small country with mountains, chocolate, cows and watches... but the minarets makes us famous!!

Don't take that too serious...saw similar posts in other forums. We have over 20% inhabitants from out of contry, well...

BUT: we're here for talking Cobras! Are the Kirkhams and Shelbys registered in the same registry?

[Gunner]

Originally Posted by fonti

Yeah...nobody gives a **** about this small country with mountains, chocolate, cows and watches... but the minarets makes us famous!

I understand the context of the debate, believe me. Couldn't pass up the chance for a rimshot. Apologies to the cows and chocolate. I doubt the mountains care. I just asked my watch; it doesn't care.

BUT: we're here for talking Cobras! Are the Kirkhams and Shelbys registered in the same registry?

For reasons that make no particular sense to me, Kirkhams are included the Shelby registry.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by fonti

Are the Kirkhams and Shelbys registered in the same registry?

Yes.

Why? Because "They (Kirkhams) can be used to complete the reconstruction of original serial numbered Cobras or to build totally new vehicles. They (the Kirkhams) also sensed the a market for parts which could be used to restore or reconstruct original Cobras because the specifications would be virtually identical." Quote taken from page 846 of the World Registry.

Shelby's CSX4000's and 6000's use Kirkham bodies. Just a an approximation, but of the 600 Kirkhams produced, 250 +/- were delivered to Shelby, at least that's what I remember the Kirkhams stating in a thread some time ago.

[fonti]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Yes.

Why? Because "They (Kirkhams) can be used to complete the reconstruction of original serial numbered Cobras or to build totally new vehicles. They (the Kirkhams) also sensed the a market for parts which could be used to restore or reconstruct original Cobras because the specifications would be virtually identical." Quote taken from page 846 of the World Registry.

Shelby's CSX4000's and 6000's use Kirkham bodies. Just a an approximation, but of the 600 Kirkhams produced, 250 +/- were delivered to Shelby, at least that's what I remember the Kirkhams stating in a thread some time ago.

I know that the body is identical... but: why should I pay around 30K more for a Shelby compared to a Kirkham, when the qualiy, craftmanship and the "people behind Kirkham are at least as good as "Shelby"?

Sorry, but it's important for a "swiss farmer": both, the Kirkham and Shelby are registered in the same registry? They have just another VIN?