Era/spf/csx

[Got the Bug]

Originally Posted by Gunner

That ERA price is less paint and includes transmission. The Richmond tranny was $2000; paint on a bare glass car is $5,000 and up depending on what kind of finish you want.

SPFs are complete, ready for an engine and tranny, away you go, factory paint job.

CSX... I don't know if that price includes paint. Seems unlikely. In fact, that price seems a little low for a glass CSX roller; it means the finished price would be around $65k, the same as a well-done ERA. I suspect paint and other things are not included in that $49k.

You can find CSX glass rollers fully painted in the low $40K range.

[REAL 1]

I don't think the manual is a big issue with the CSX as the vast majority of CSXs are fitted out by dealers to completion. A manual would be helpful though regardless.

I also believe that the vast majority of owners of glass CSX Cobras are very happy with the quality of their cars.

While both ERA and SPF are great cars and excellent products I can't think of a reason to justify buying either of them over a Shelby for the prices noted above. There would have to something very specific about the ERA and SPF that I really valued or wanted to make me opt for them over the Shelby at those prices. At those prices there are just too many reasons making the Shelby the best buy, quality being comparable on all three.

[Got the Bug]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

While both ERA and SPF are great cars and excellent products I can't think of a reason to justify buying either of them over a Shelby for the prices noted above. There would have to something very specific about the ERA and SPF that I really valued or wanted to make me opt for them over the Shelby at those prices. At those prices there are just too many reasons making the Shelby the best buy, quality being comparable on all three.

One key reason to choose an SPF or ERA over a CSX car, would the subjective (handling, ride, seating position, etc.) characteristics that can't be resolved on a spreadsheet. We have a local Cobra Club member (Panavia) who owns an SPF and is the process of building a CSX car. It's always interesting to get some input from people who have owned both cars and offer the pros and cons of each.

[tkb289]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

While both ERA and SPF are great cars and excellent products I can't think of a reason to justify buying either of them over a Shelby for the prices noted above. There would have to something very specific about the ERA and SPF that I really valued or wanted to make me opt for them over the Shelby at those prices. At those prices there are just too many reasons making the Shelby the best buy, quality being comparable on all three.

Originally Posted by Got the Bug

One key reason to choose an SPF or ERA over a CSX car, would the subjective (handling, ride, seating position, etc.) characteristics that can't be resolved on a spreadsheet. We have a local Cobra Club member (Panavia) who owns an SPF and is the process of building a CSX car. It's always interesting to get some input from people who have owned both cars and offer the pros and cons of each.

I probably fall into the 'subjective' category and am going with ERA. What I am after is somewhat off the beaten path ... here's why:

- I want a 289 car with a grille
- I prefer the FIA body, over the slab side (or 427 body) --- no offense intended
- Am 6'-4" --- and ERA has a few tweaks (as do others) to get 'bigger guys' to fit into a 90" wheel base car
- Add in a custom roll bar setup and the ability to pick and choose different suspension options, for me ERA is the way to go

Kirkham would have been wonderful ... but realistically out of my price range. A CSX 7000 or CSX 8000 would work too, but for me personally at this point, not worth the premium. SPF to my knowledge does not offer a 289 car at this time.

The only downside from my perspective with ERA is the wait, but I knew that going in and that's part of the process. I don't have the car yet ... but will soon

Another important factor in my mind, is no matter which company you choose to go with ... CSX, SPF, ERA, Krikham ... (you name it) is to have close working relationship with the people that help you fulfill your dream. I have a lot of respect for all of these cars and companies, it's nice to have a choice.

- Tim

[somedayaurora]

ITS funny we've all heard of SPF and CSX cutting prices and dealing But it seems as ERA is raising them , must mean something
SDR
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[patrickt]

Originally Posted by somedayaurora

ITS funny we've all heard of SPF and CSX cutting prices and dealing But it seems as ERA is raising them , must mean something

Originally Posted by kgs365

and people put up with a waiting list....that speaks volumes!...

Obviously ERA owners are stupider than the average bear. We pay more, wait longer, and buy something that most people have never even heard of. And we do this in spite of the fact that it would be much easier to buy something from one of the other manufacturers. Some of us are even extra-stupid. When I was up in New Britain I was so overcome with dumbness that I even offered to pay Peter if he would just let me come work for him. Now come on, you gotta admit that's pretty dumb. Peter probably should have just stopped me right there and said "Sorry Pat, you're just too dumb to own a Cobra -- I won't build you one."

[somedayaurora]

True story !
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[Stentor]

Originally Posted by somedayaurora

ITS funny we've all heard of SPF and CSX cutting prices and dealing But it seems as ERA is raising them , must mean something
SDR

Yep, it's supply and demand--basic economics. The supply of ERAs is constrained and demand is solid--so they don't discount because they can sell everything they produce. If they started producing cars beyond the actual demand for them then things would change.

[somedayaurora]

like ferrari
funny thing is back in the day ol' shel didn't have that business model , they sat , sometimes for a long time on dealers' lots'...... and forty years later ERA , a replica, Has strong demand even in a Economic down turn ,
happy holidays
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[Gunner]

Originally Posted by Got the Bug

You can find CSX glass rollers fully painted in the low $40K range.

Really. Meaning, oh, $45k plus 20k for a very good engine and tranny? That's $65k, the same cost as a well-finished ERA.

Interesting.

[Got the Bug]

Originally Posted by Gunner

Really. Meaning, oh, $45k plus 20k for a very good engine and tranny? That's $65k, the same cost as a well-finished ERA.

Interesting.

The list price for a painted CSX roller is $49K. A local guy picked up a roller for under $45K...don't know how many of those deals are out there, but I would imagine there are a few.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Got the Bug

The list price for a painted CSX roller is $49K. A local guy picked up a roller for under $45K...don't know how many of those deals are out there, but I would imagine there are a few.

PANAVIA paid $40K or $41K fo his CSX, but someone here on CC just recently claimed that dealers that sell or sold CSX's under MSRP will lose or lost their CSX license to sell.

[Got the Bug]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

PANAVIA paid $40K or $41K fo his CSX, but someone here on CC just recently claimed that dealers that sell or sold CSX's under MSRP will lose or lost their CSX license to sell.

Hmm...wouldn't that be price fixing? There was a guy from a dealer in Fresno that used to drop in from time to time offering deals. They may not be able to advertise the deals, but I'm sure they'll deal.